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Scav
06-09-2006, 11:17 AM
They are nuts if they think people are going to bet Steppenwolfer at +430. Both Pletcher horses are going to take action, along with Bob and John. Deputy Glitters is getting some pub (if it stays dry), High Finance and Jazil are going to take action.

I think you get 6/1 on Step on Belmont day and the favorite will be 4/1.

Furthermore, looking at Step's TG sheet, WILL YOU FINALLY RUN A NEW TOP, 4 friggin pairs in a row, EXPLODE ALREADY

hoovesupsideyourhead
06-09-2006, 11:20 AM
i think he runs poorly...thats was some work...not a good idea to me but those of you who like him good luck sacred light has more upside for mine...

Scav
06-09-2006, 11:33 AM
your crazy..Sacred Light will contend for last with Platinum Couple

hoovesupsideyourhead
06-09-2006, 11:36 AM
your crazy..Sacred Light will contend for last with Platinum Couple
ok..we shall see...bictor flies in for a shot of the purse..

Thunder Gulch
06-09-2006, 11:48 AM
I think we've seen Steppenwolfer's best already, which means he isn't good enough to win.

randallscott35
06-09-2006, 11:49 AM
Sunriver goes off your favorite and wins. 3-1 or 7-2 sounds right. Not sexy I know.

Scav
06-09-2006, 11:54 AM
Randall, you really like Sunriver to win?

I think he bounces, that last effort was very taxing, Bejarano asked him for EVERYTHING

hoovesupsideyourhead
06-09-2006, 11:55 AM
Sunriver goes off your favorite and wins. 3-1 or 7-2 sounds right. Not sexy I know.
he should but im going to see the" light" under and around him

randallscott35
06-09-2006, 12:10 PM
Randall, you really like Sunriver to win?

I think he bounces, that last effort was very taxing, Bejarano asked him for EVERYTHING

He closed into a soft pace and Pletcher already said he was too far off the pace that day. I don't think he bounces. If he pairs the 0 he wins for fun in here. Like I said it isn't a given at 12 furlongs, but I'm not going to try and beat him just because. The most logical winner.

randallscott35
06-09-2006, 12:20 PM
Scavs do yourself a favor and bet the matchup today Spider Power against Noble Deeds. Spider Power is just plain faster and will work out a far better trip.

eurobounce
06-09-2006, 12:22 PM
I like Bluegrass Cat in this one. I thought and thought and he is simply the best horse in the field. Sunriver has a shot but I think Bluegrass Cat is so much better than any of these horses.

Scav
06-09-2006, 12:27 PM
Scavs do yourself a favor and bet the matchup today Spider Power against Noble Deeds. Spider Power is just plain faster and will work out a far better trip.

Can you compare Spider's pattern to Steppenwolfer's, and predict that type of a jump? I know they are completely different animals/surfaces but it looks somewhat the same

I am giong to put a little on that matchup, but I am worried about Spider bouncing, only 22 days after a 5pt top.....

randallscott35
06-09-2006, 12:30 PM
Scavs,

To me you could bet this just on race flow. Noble Deeds if he doesn't rate will be forced to go very fast early and his 2 races at Belmont leave a lot to be desired. I think Spider Power is no fluke. The fact he took as much money as he did his first few in the States indicates they thought the last race was coming a long time ago. Clear matchup for me. Don't know if Spider will win but he'll do well.

Scav
06-09-2006, 12:56 PM
I'm in on it, $138 to win $120

Scav
06-09-2006, 05:55 PM
Thanks Randall, that was as easy as it gets

Togacapper
06-09-2006, 06:05 PM
Scav, Want to know if you saw the 5th @ Arlington today?

Scav
06-09-2006, 06:14 PM
I got the call via phone. I played the horse that ran last....the 11, the horse that won was extremely playable, what's up?

Togacapper
06-09-2006, 06:19 PM
Ahhh ya gotta see the race. I used the 11 underneath keyed the 2 plus bet him to win he ran 2nd. Had trouble turning for home checked, stumbled. I'm blaming it on ferrer he really had no where to go, but he put himself in that position. Was gonna ask ya if you thought the 2 would have won if he didn't get in trouble.

Scav
06-09-2006, 06:21 PM
alright, I am all over it....I played this mule 9 horse but I did it in the morning according to my friend who called the race for me, I wouldn't have played him with the way he looked on the track, get back to you in a couple minutes

Scav
06-09-2006, 06:27 PM
Alright.....The thing with Arlington is that the he tried the patent'd Bridgo/Douglas ride...stick the rail the whole time and then split the horses that were staying and get through right by the tiring horse. I personally don't think he would have beat the 11, he was much the best. It looked like good race riding by the 11 because he closed the hole the 2 had. 2 was also a little green. Definite play back though for me, thanks for letting me know about him

Togacapper
06-09-2006, 06:30 PM
Yeah yer probrobly right I'm just frustrated . I loved the ride untill the stretch. Bet back yeah but arent gonna get 7-1 next time.

Scav
06-09-2006, 06:35 PM
That is the patented Arlington ride, look for it in the last race from the 1 horse

Scav
06-09-2006, 06:37 PM
They might take this 2 down in the 8th, that would be huge for me

Scav
06-09-2006, 06:40 PM
That is bullshit....figures

Togacapper
06-09-2006, 06:43 PM
The 1 alright I'll use him.. I' going 1,5,6

Togacapper
06-09-2006, 06:43 PM
Saw that what did they do?

Scav
06-09-2006, 06:50 PM
no take down, easily cost him a half length, lost by a head.....

I am boxing 1-6 large

Togacapper
06-09-2006, 06:54 PM
Good luck!!

Scav
06-09-2006, 07:06 PM
F'n Calabrese SNUCK ONE IN THERE. Puts the BRUTAL Laviolette on him, changes the trainer name. EVEN SHANE couldn't have screwed that up....

Togacapper
06-09-2006, 08:22 PM
I was gonna let him beat me and he did Oh well. Atleast I had the Violette horse in the Bel 10th.

Dunbar
06-10-2006, 12:31 AM
They are nuts if they think people are going to bet Steppenwolfer at +430. Both Pletcher horses are going to take action, along with Bob and John. Deputy Glitters is getting some pub (if it stays dry), High Finance and Jazil are going to take action.

I think you get 6/1 on Step on Belmont day and the favorite will be 4/1.

As you probably know, Pinnacle is seldom nuts. They apparently did get action on Steppenwolfer at +430. The line has dropped to +419. I don't think he goes off anywhere near 6-1. I'll be surprised if he is 5-1.

For those that like Sunriver, the best I see around is 9-2 at Pinnacle. Sacred Light is 18-1 at several sportsbooks.

--Dunbar

Togacapper
06-10-2006, 02:31 AM
i think he runs poorly...thats was some work...not a good idea to me but those of you who like him good luck sacred light has more upside for mine...
In my opinion it wasn't the execise rider, it wasn't Steppen, it was the track. He loves Belmont. And I like him alot. Just my opinion.

Togacapper
06-10-2006, 02:35 AM
Steppenwolfer 2004 Keenland Sept yearling purchase 25,000 pin hooked 2005 OBSC training for 375,000 earned 561,520......horse seems to like to have a piece of the pie.....How can ya knock that