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casp0555
08-24-2013, 10:30 AM
Race #1 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$10 Win/Place
# 9
$20.00

Race #1 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$1 Pick-3
# 5,9
WT # 7,10
WT # 3,9
$8.00

GLA!

ateamstupid
08-24-2013, 10:59 AM
Sar 2
$.50 PK4 10/2,4,5,9,10/1,8,11,12,14/2,3,5,9,10
$62.50

casp0555
08-24-2013, 11:04 AM
Race #2 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$0.5 Pick-4
# 2,7,10,11
WT # 2,6,9
WT # 1,11,12
WT # 5,9,10
$54.00

Clip-Clop
08-24-2013, 11:05 AM
Holy late $ on the ten.

hoovesupsideyourhead
08-24-2013, 11:22 AM
50 wp 10 1 ex box 10/9/7/2

geojr130
08-24-2013, 11:32 AM
sar. 3
$2dd
1-2-3w
11
2 win
1

jms62
08-24-2013, 12:06 PM
Sar 4

$10 DD 11/4,8,12

jms62
08-24-2013, 12:12 PM
No passing Zone in place for Travers day :zz:

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 12:39 PM
Saratoga Race 5

The hanger Toy Cannon finally wins one (I hope).

$60 dd 10/1
$40 dd 10/6

pointman
08-24-2013, 12:40 PM
Spa 5

$20W 2
$10DD 2,9/5,8

randallscott35
08-24-2013, 12:40 PM
Playing #4 Noosh to show here....GL Deetee boys

casp0555
08-24-2013, 12:41 PM
Race #5 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$5 Exacta KeyBox
# 10
WT # 5,9
$20.00

geojr130
08-24-2013, 12:43 PM
Rc 5
$2db
4-5w
8
$2 win.
5

jms62
08-24-2013, 12:44 PM
Sar 5

$10 DD 4/5,6,10
$10 Win 12

pointman
08-24-2013, 12:48 PM
Nothing quite like wagering on by far the best horse in a race and having nothing to show for it. :wf

geojr130
08-24-2013, 12:52 PM
Rc 5
$2db
4-5w
8
$2 win.
5
$18.20

jms62
08-24-2013, 01:00 PM
Congrats geojr

Sar 6

$20 DD 6/5
$10 DD 6/1,12
$3 DD 1,5/1,5,12

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 01:01 PM
Saratoga Race 6

Idiot proof trip for Alvarado on the 1. Stalk inside and win for fun. Or set the pace (more likely with an impatient jock) and still have enough off the cutback to beat these.

$100 win #1

$50 ex 1/6
$30 ex 6/1

$20 ex 1/7,8,10
$10 ex 7/1

$10 tri 1,6/1,6,7,8,10/1,6,7,8,10

casp0555
08-24-2013, 01:12 PM
Race #6 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$1.00 Pick-3
# 1,6,10
WT # 1,5
WT # 2,6,7,9
$24.00

geojr130
08-24-2013, 01:13 PM
Rc 6
$2 Dd
8w
1-2-5

iamthelurker
08-24-2013, 01:15 PM
Sar 6

$5 Double

1,5,6 / 1,5

$30

pointman
08-24-2013, 01:15 PM
Spa 6

$20W 5
$10DD 5,8/4,9

pointman
08-24-2013, 01:23 PM
If I had known they were going to let the 1 waltz on the front end I would have emptied my account. Where were the 2 and 8 pressing that horse?

odbaxter
08-24-2013, 01:24 PM
Saratoga Race 6

Idiot proof trip for Alvarado on the 1. Stalk inside and win for fun. Or set the pace (more likely with an impatient jock) and still have enough off the cutback to beat these.

$100 win #1

$50 ex 1/6
$30 ex 6/1

$20 ex 1/7,8,10
$10 ex 7/1



$10 tri 1,6/1,6,7,8,10/1,6,7,8,10

Nice call!!

Shame the six got snagged.

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 01:29 PM
Saratoga Race 6

Idiot proof trip for Alvarado on the 1. Stalk inside and win for fun. Or set the pace (more likely with an impatient jock) and still have enough off the cutback to beat these.

$100 win #1

$50 ex 1/6
$30 ex 6/1

$20 ex 1/7,8,10
$10 ex 7/1

$10 tri 1,6/1,6,7,8,10/1,6,7,8,10

$580

what might've been

hoovesupsideyourhead
08-24-2013, 01:36 PM
SAR #7 $30 WPS 10 none $ 90.00

jms62
08-24-2013, 01:47 PM
Sar 7

$20 DD 5/4
$10 DD 5/1,6
$3 DD 1,12/1,4,6

pointman
08-24-2013, 01:49 PM
$580

what might've been

Nice call, Jimmy! Keep it rolling.

Spa 7

$20W 9
$10DD 4,9/5,7

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 01:56 PM
Thanks guys

Saratoga Race 7

$50 win #9

pointman
08-24-2013, 02:00 PM
Thanks guys

Saratoga Race 7

$50 win #9

Why would Jose Ortiz even bother getting on top of the 9 if he was going to send him? :wf

iamthelurker
08-24-2013, 02:02 PM
Sar 6

$5 Double

1,5,6 / 1,5

$30

$125

jms62
08-24-2013, 02:03 PM
Congrats geojr

Sar 6

$20 DD 6/5
$10 DD 6/1,12
$3 DD 1,5/1,5,12

$75

hoovesupsideyourhead
08-24-2013, 02:14 PM
Race #8 08/24/2013
Saratoga

$50.00 Win/Place

# 5

$100.00



if your not inside at least pressing you cant win..

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 02:24 PM
Saratoga Race 8

$50 win #5.

$20 ex box 5/3,7,10

Woodbine Race 6

$100 win #1 --- min odds 5:2

$30 ex box 1/4
$20 ex 1/3

jms62
08-24-2013, 02:24 PM
Saratoga 8

$50 DD 4/6
$20 DD 1,2,6/6

pointman
08-24-2013, 02:26 PM
Spa 8

$20W 5
$20DD 5,7/4
$5DD 4/4

jms62
08-24-2013, 02:34 PM
Lezcano ****ed me on Prado Cat. Inside yes trying to squeeze through on the rail NO. You get a Good ride or a Horrible ride with him:zz:

hoovesupsideyourhead
08-24-2013, 02:34 PM
$0.50 Pick-4 2,4,5,6,8,​WT,1,4,6,​WT,2,5,9,10,12,14,​WT,3,5,8,9 none $ 180.00



Race #9 08/24/2013
Saratoga

$250.00 Place

# 6

$250.00

pointman
08-24-2013, 02:36 PM
I think there is no doubt at this point that on the turf today you have to either be on the lead or get an inside trip close to the lead to have any chance. Outside and you are done.

I don't get why Rosie didn't send the 7 who should have been faster to the lead than the 2. Frac Daddy will be a huge bet against for me next out.

jms62
08-24-2013, 02:43 PM
I think there is no doubt at this point that on the turf today you have to either be on the lead or get an inside trip close to the lead to have any chance. Outside and you are done.

I don't get why Rosie didn't send the 7 who should have been faster to the lead than the 2. Frac Daddy will be a huge bet against for me next out.

Know what's really ****ed is I picked Frac Daddy in the Contest but didn't have a plug nickel on him for real.. Who is the real Moron.. :o

hoovesupsideyourhead
08-24-2013, 02:45 PM
I think there is no doubt at this point that on the turf today you have to either be on the lead or get an inside trip close to the lead to have any chance. Outside and you are done.

I don't get why Rosie didn't send the 7 who should have been faster to the lead than the 2. Frac Daddy will be a huge bet against for me next out.

because shes overrated

pointman
08-24-2013, 02:45 PM
Know what's really ****ed is I picked Frac Daddy in the Contest but didn't have a plug nickel on him for real.. Who is the real Moron.. :o

Now that the bias is pretty clear, I am afraid you may see some really stupid rides with everyone sending . . . .

pointman
08-24-2013, 02:46 PM
because shes overrated

You won't get an argument from me there, it is inexplicable to me that she didn't send that horse.

randallscott35
08-24-2013, 02:58 PM
I think So Many Ways is the value despite the overrated jock up. We'll see

pointman
08-24-2013, 03:00 PM
Spa 9

$50W 4
$20DD 4/1,2

jms62
08-24-2013, 03:03 PM
Time to take the rubber band off

Saratoga 9

.50 P4 $90

9) 4,5,6,8,9
10) 1,2,3,4,5,7
11) 2,5,7,8,10,12
12) 8

$5 P4 $40

9) 4,6,9
10) 2
11) 2,8
12) 8

.50 P4 $40

9) 4,5,6,9
10) 2
11) 2,5,8,10
12) 3,5,6,8,9

.50 P4 $40

9) 6
10) 1,2,4,7
11) 2,5,8,10
12) 3,5,6,8,9

.50 P4 $40

9) 4,5,6,9
10) 1,2,4,7
11) 8
12) 3,5,6,8,9


$50 DD 6/2
$20 DD 6/1,4
$10 DD 4,9/2

casp0555
08-24-2013, 03:04 PM
Race #9 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$0.5 Pick-4
# 2,5,8
WT # 1,4,5
WT # 2,5,9,10
WT # 3,5,8
$54.00

randallscott35
08-24-2013, 03:12 PM
Time to take Rosie off after that abortion

jms62
08-24-2013, 03:25 PM
Saratoga 10

$50 DD 2/8
$20 DD 2/2.10
$10 DD 1,4/8

pointman
08-24-2013, 03:29 PM
Spa 10

$20W 2
$20DD 1,2/10
$10DD 1,2/5

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 03:31 PM
Saratoga Race 10

#4, Centre Court, figures to get an absolutely perfect trip here, sitting behind the 1 and 2.But Arnold just flat out sucks and doesn't seem to have a clue as to how to get this one up to a race. See what happens.



$100 win #4

$30 ex 4/1,3,5

On cue, TSTV freezing up again.

casp0555
08-24-2013, 03:34 PM
hedging a bit....

Race #10 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$3 Exacta
# 2
WT # 1,4,5
$9.00

jms62
08-24-2013, 03:41 PM
NYRA should be embarrassed with these conditions.

pointman
08-24-2013, 03:41 PM
I am shocked that Mike Smith did not use Pianist's speed early as she is faster than the 1 to the front. I guess he was satisfied with 2nd place money. :wf

jms62
08-24-2013, 03:43 PM
I am shocked that Mike Smith did not use Pianist's speed early as she is faster than the 1 to the front. I guess he was satisfied with 2nd place money. :wf

Dude that killed me.. This is an absolute joke today. Biggest day of the year. Do they have absolutely no control in producing a somewhat fair track?

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 03:48 PM
Lezcano on Orb. What's the over under that he fails to change leads in the lane? I see Ice Box and Fly Down all over again.

pointman
08-24-2013, 03:49 PM
Dude that killed me.. This is an absolute joke today. Biggest day of the year. Do they have absolutely no control in producing a somewhat fair track?

They have not gotten any rain. The turf course is obviously very hard and a conveyor belt right now. The good news is that we all know the bias here and can try to take advantage of it. I really think there is nothing Glen Kozak can do with that course right now, only mother nature can fix this.

I played a $36 pk4 at the last second that I didn't have time to post, but used the 1,2,7 in that leg. You would think that I would play that triple. :wf

Having said that, I really thought that Pianist was too quick early and could get the lead over the 1. Not really sure why Mike Smith would disagree, that really hurt from the perspective of my win and double plays.

randallscott35
08-24-2013, 03:51 PM
Played Pianist as well. Don't understand sitting back.

Playing Capo Bastone to show here at 25-1.

jms62
08-24-2013, 03:53 PM
They have not gotten any rain. The turf course is obviously very hard and a conveyor belt right now. The good news is that we all know the bias here and can try to take advantage of it. I really think there is nothing Glen Kozak can do with that course right now, only mother nature can fix this.

I played a $36 pk4 at the last second that I didn't have time to post, but used the 1,2,7 in that leg. You would think that I would play that triple. :wf

Having said that, I really thought that Pianist was too quick early and could get the lead over the 1. Not really sure why Mike Smith would disagree, that really hurt from the perspective of my win and double plays.

Pianst losing unfortunately dooms my day. Why can't they just water the **** out of it? Golf courses don't go to **** when there is a drought. It's 2013 for chrissakes if they can't figure out a way I am certain someone out there can.

hoovesupsideyourhead
08-24-2013, 03:56 PM
40 place show 11 ..I know I know..hes under the radar but..i think he sitting on a big race ..ive wheeled him up n down w the 2/5/8/9/12/10

pointman
08-24-2013, 03:56 PM
Pianst losing unfortunately dooms my day. Why can't they just water the **** out of it? Golf courses don't go to **** when there is a drought. It's 2013 for chrissakes if they can't figure out a way I am certain someone out there can.

From what I understand you can never water it and get the effect that mother nature gives it. But then again, I am just a degenerate gambler, so what do I know?

That killed me too, Smith's ride inexplicable to me.

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 03:56 PM
Unlike dirt biases, turf biases are beatable. Just that the jocks aren't sophisticated enough to understand that there is a bias, let alone how to beat it. Nothing new here.

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:01 PM
From what I understand you can never water it and get the effect that mother nature gives it. But then again, I am just a degenerate gambler, so what do I know?

That killed me too, Smith's ride inexplicable to me.

Lezcano killed me on Prado Cat then killed me again by winning with Laughing. Smith Killed me on Pianst so I have to put something on Let em shine

ADJMK
08-24-2013, 04:01 PM
With the way the track is playing how can you not key off the #10.

10 with 4,5,7,9

pointman
08-24-2013, 04:03 PM
Spa 11

late pk4's split with pmac:


$1-$100
11- 10
12- 1,3,6,8
13- 3,4,7,8,10
14- 1,5,8,10,13

$1-$126
11- 10
12- 1,3,8
13- 3,4,7,8,10,11
14- 1,3,4,5,8,10,13

$0.50-$90
11- 5,7,10
12- 1,3,8
13- 3,4,7,8,10
12- 1,8,10,13

$50W 10
$20DD 10/1,8

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 04:09 PM
Saratoga Race 11

$100 win #10

$60 dd 10/8

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:11 PM
Sar 11

$5 Ex 10/4,5,7,11

casp0555
08-24-2013, 04:12 PM
Race #11 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$2 Exacta
# 8
WT # 2,5,9,10
$8.00

Race #11 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$3 Exacta
# 10
WT # 2,8
$6.00

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:15 PM
Race #11 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$2 Exacta
# 8
WT # 2,5,9,10
$8.00

Race #11 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$3 Exacta
# 10
WT # 2,8
$6.00

Absolutely ****ing Destroys any chance I have of getting out.:zz:

randallscott35
08-24-2013, 04:16 PM
Played Pianist as well. Don't understand sitting back.

Playing Capo Bastone to show here at 25-1.

Jesus ****ing Christ

pointman
08-24-2013, 04:16 PM
Mike Smith is an absolute jerk off, how in god's name did he give up the rail to Mentor Cane? :wf:wf

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:18 PM
Jesus ****ing Christ

Nice Call... :$::tro:

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 04:18 PM
Well, it's not all bad. My phone actually alerted me that it was fully charged. I mean, that **** never happens. :wf

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:19 PM
Zito really got Declan's Warrior ready for that one :rolleyes:

randallscott35
08-24-2013, 04:20 PM
Nice Call... :$::tro:

Better than 5-1 to show but I just couldn't convince myself with the way the track was playing he'd win straight up

-BT-
08-24-2013, 04:23 PM
well at least i don't have to worry about the travers now :rolleyes:


stone cold closer on a speed biased track, right in the middle of the pk4 sequence, kick to dick


-bt-

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:23 PM
That was Irad Ortiz's 8th $20+ Winner this meet.

ADJMK
08-24-2013, 04:24 PM
Mike Smith is an absolute jerk off, how in god's name did he give up the rail to Mentor Cane? :wf:wf

Most have really been playing attention to the way the track is playing. And where did the winner come from.Up the rail.

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 04:25 PM
Woodbine Race 10

$100 win #1 - min odds 5:2

$50 ex box 1/2

knickslions2
08-24-2013, 04:31 PM
Travers

$50 win 3
$20 exacta
3/8,9

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:36 PM
Travers
$50 DD 8/8
$25 DD 8/3,4
$25 DD 5,6/8

$1 Super Box 3,5,6,8
$1 Super Box 5,6,8,9

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 04:38 PM
Woodbine Race 10

$100 win #1 - min odds 5:2

$50 ex box 1/2

no win bet

$365

crumbs

pointman
08-24-2013, 04:39 PM
Nice job, Randell

I am still incredulous over Mike Smith's ride there. What would make him think that the 10 would rate? He had the lead easy, why didn't he take that horse to the rail and let him do what he does best?

Why was Maldonado replaced on that horse? Say what you want about Maldonado, but when he is on a speed horse he let's the horse do what it wants to do.

Unbelievable, killed 2 pk4's for me. Unbelievable.

fantini33
08-24-2013, 04:40 PM
Travers

$100 Win --- 9 ---

$20 Ex --- 9 / 1 5 ---

$10 Tri --- 9 / 8 / 1 5 7 ---

$1 Tri Box --- 1 5 7 9 ---

.50 Super --- 1 5 7 8 / 9 /1 5 7 8 / ALL

$5 Pick 3

12) 1 7 9
13) 5 10
14) 2 4 11

$320 Total

pointman
08-24-2013, 04:41 PM
Spa 12

$20W 1
$10DD 1/3,4,7,8
$5EX 3,8/1
$1TRI 3,8/1,2,3,6,8/1,2,3,6,8
$1SUP 1,3,8/1,2,3,8/1,2,3,8/1,2,3,6,8,9

casp0555
08-24-2013, 04:45 PM
Race #12 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$5 Double
# 3,8
WT # 5,8
$20.00

$4 Double
# 5
WT # 5
$4.00

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 04:46 PM
Saratoga race 12

$40 dd 8/4,5,7

Mike
08-24-2013, 04:46 PM
Going with War Dancer!

pointman
08-24-2013, 04:51 PM
What a stunning display of incompetent riding today. :wf

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:51 PM
What a stunning display of incompetent riding today. :wf

I would be taken out in handcuffs. Palace Malice WTF was that?:zz:

casp0555
08-24-2013, 04:52 PM
almost another DH

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 04:52 PM
Ummmmmm

What was Mike Smith doing? :zz:

-BT-
08-24-2013, 04:53 PM
D Wayne Lukas with a Preakness winner and a Travers winner.......


this is my nightmare


-bt-

jms62
08-24-2013, 04:54 PM
Ummmmmm

What was Mike Smith doing? :zz:

I thought something was wrong and he was going to pull him up but how does he choose to come from off the pace with the way the track has been playing. That was the worst ride of the meet.

pointman
08-24-2013, 04:54 PM
Ummmmmm

What was Mike Smith doing? :zz:

He completely has his head up his azz today. Maybe he is wondering how he f***** it up with the best piece of azz he will ever see?

pointman
08-24-2013, 04:56 PM
I thought something was wrong and he was going to pull him up but how does he choose to come from off the pace with the way the track has been playing. That was the worst ride of the meet.

By my count that is now three races in a row that he has taken a speed horse off the pace instead of letting them do what they do. What an azzhole, he has absolutely destroyed my wallet today.

I also loved how Castellano managed to get squeezed out on the turn when the 1 was full of run and then tries to go up the rail. Incredible. :wf

jms62
08-24-2013, 05:02 PM
By my count that is now three races in a row that he has taken a speed horse off the pace instead of letting them do what they do. What an azzhole, he has absolutely destroyed my wallet today.

I also loved how Castellano managed to get squeezed out on the turn when the 1 was full of run and then tries to go up the rail. Incredible. :wf

He had Speed horses on a speed favoring track and elected to have them come off the pace. Words can't describe how idiotic this is.

Sightseek
08-24-2013, 05:03 PM
I thought something was wrong and he was going to pull him up but how does he choose to come from off the pace with the way the track has been playing. That was the worst ride of the meet.

I don't think he had much choice after Transparent came out on him at the start.

jms62
08-24-2013, 05:06 PM
I don't think he had much choice after Transparent came out on him at the start.

Durkin said nothing so I didn't know that. Will need to watch again

pointman
08-24-2013, 05:08 PM
I don't think he had much choice after Transparent came out on him at the start.

I missed the bad break admittedly, but what about his rides on Let Em Shine and Pianist? Unfortunate, Palace Malice was an hour and a half the best there.

Sightseek
08-24-2013, 05:11 PM
I missed the bad break admittedly, but what about his rides on Let Em Shine and Pianist? Unfortunate, Palace Malice was an hour and a half the best there.

I agree on Palace Malice, but felt that way going in.

ADJMK
08-24-2013, 05:15 PM
I missed the bad break admittedly, but what about his rides on Let Em Shine and Pianist? Unfortunate, Palace Malice was an hour and a half the best there.

Definitely a bet back for me. Hopefully with a rider change

pointman
08-24-2013, 05:17 PM
Spa 13

$20W 4
$20DD 4,7/1
$10DD 4,7/10

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 05:18 PM
wtf? now I can't load this site. :wf

Saratoga Race 13

I need something long here:

$100 win # 6
$50 win #4

$25 ex box 4,6/4,5,6,7

$10 ex 4,5,6,7/11

casp0555
08-24-2013, 05:22 PM
Race #13 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$5 Double
# 3,5,8
WT # 1
$15.00

pointman
08-24-2013, 05:24 PM
I need a f****** stiff drink. :wf

pointman
08-24-2013, 05:25 PM
Once again I had money on a horse that was an hour and a half the best and it loses due to bad circumstances. Incredible. :wf

casp0555
08-24-2013, 05:30 PM
Race #12 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$5 Double
# 3,8
WT # 5,8
$20.00

$4 Double
# 5
WT # 5
$4.00

135.00 now I can buy gas to get home

pointman
08-24-2013, 05:32 PM
Spa 14

$20W 10
$10EXB 1,10
$1SUP 1,10/1,3,4,10/1,3,4,10/1,3,4,10

casp0555
08-24-2013, 05:44 PM
Race #14 08/24/2013
Saratoga
$0.1 Superfecta
# 1,2,5,10,12
WT # 1,2,5,10,12
WT # 1,2,5,10,12
WT # 1,2,5,10,12
$12.00

JimmyEllis
08-24-2013, 05:53 PM
Saratoga r 14

$75 win #4

$75 win $13

$25 ex 5/4,13

pointman
08-24-2013, 06:00 PM
Why wasn't the 10 sent and put behind the speed like he should have been? F me!

casp0555
08-24-2013, 06:02 PM
last play tonight.....

Race #7 08/24/2013
Del Mar
$0.5 Pick-4
# 3,4
WT # 6,7
WT # 4,7,9,11
WT # 7,10,11
$24.00

Race #5 08/24/2013
Del Mar
$4 Double
# 2,7,8
WT # 9
$12.00

casp0555
08-24-2013, 10:34 PM
last play tonight.....

Race #7 08/24/2013
Del Mar
$0.5 Pick-4
# 3,4
WT # 6,7
WT # 4,7,9,11
WT # 7,10,11
$24.00

Race #5 08/24/2013
Del Mar
$4 Double
# 2,7,8
WT # 9
$12.00
72.00

jms62
08-25-2013, 04:06 AM
Nice closing out of the day Casp