The Indomitable DrugS
01-25-2011, 03:53 PM
If you go to the HANA website ... you see...
Our Goals:
OK
ADW Signal Availability - All track signals available to all licensed ADWs all the time. No exceptions and no blackouts. Ever.
:rolleyes:
Takeout - Takeout needs to be lowered significantly and lowered NOW. We believe 9 or 10 percent takeout every pool - every track - every race - every day - marketed in the right way as the greatest gambling game on the planet will create an upward explosion in handle and generate new massive interest about the game among the millions of gambling customers racing has failed to reach for almost a generation and has absolutely no chance of reaching under the status quo.
And how and why is this not your one and only goal?
Drugs - It's time for a national drug policy with teeth. The game needs to be regulated in such a way that there are absolutely no questions whatsoever about the integrity of the game.
:rolleyes:
Pool Integrity - Odds changes after the bell, outright theft through abuse of the cancel delay, failure to close and merge pools when the gate opens, and an industry that knowingly allows this to keep happening is simply unacceptable.
The game needs a modern secure tote system fast enough to render odds and payoffs in real time.
We repeat: The game needs to be regulated in such a way that there are absolutely no questions whatsoever about the integrity of the game.
:rolleyes:
Quality of the Product - Large competitive fields please.
Shut up.
Not that it probably would have mattered anyway - but HANA should have had a singular goal - to reduce takeout and fight any attempts at increases.
They aren't succeeding at either the former or latter. In fact, not only did they increase the takeout in California ... but they publicly did it with the claim that it will be healthy for business. :eek:
Finally, I stumbled across this today at Paulick's site:
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/platt-and-rebate-shops-not-friends-of-racing/
Get a load of this:
Jeff Platt is a smart guy. He’s a horseplayer who has developed a handicapping software system. He also is the high profile president of the vocal group known as Horseplayers Association of North America, or HANA, which is attempting to position itself as the “voice” of horseplayers. HANA was established a couple of years ago and has done some good things, including a ranking of racetracks that uses takeout, field size, and product availability on ADW systems as its measures.
In emails he has sent out and in a sales pitch on his website, Platt has been soliciting horseplayers to sign up with rebaters that he said he is associated with. Platt said he has no “financial stake” in those rebate operations, though he admitted to the Paulick Report that he receives commissions whenever someone he recruits becomes a customer of a rebater. Platt, thus, has a financial interest in moving horseplayers from the racetrack to rebate operations.He is their pimp.
Yeah, he's so high profile - that I can't even remember his screen name at Pace Advantage without double checking.
Basically, Paulick unzips his trousers and tries to piss all over a man who is an unpaid president of that veritable Juggernaut volunteer army known as HANA - because his personal website sent out an advertisement E-mail to his betting customers.
I tip my hat for at least trying HANA - but you aren't up to it. Bob Knight pretty much said it best "if rape is inevitable - why not just relax and enjoy it?" - and we both know it's not exactly the horse player they are raping ... they have rebate shops for the big players, offshore bookies for the small fries to get deals, and A LOT of stuff in between. They are merely raping the future of horse racing - any chance at all for good growth and useful new fans.
Our Goals:
OK
ADW Signal Availability - All track signals available to all licensed ADWs all the time. No exceptions and no blackouts. Ever.
:rolleyes:
Takeout - Takeout needs to be lowered significantly and lowered NOW. We believe 9 or 10 percent takeout every pool - every track - every race - every day - marketed in the right way as the greatest gambling game on the planet will create an upward explosion in handle and generate new massive interest about the game among the millions of gambling customers racing has failed to reach for almost a generation and has absolutely no chance of reaching under the status quo.
And how and why is this not your one and only goal?
Drugs - It's time for a national drug policy with teeth. The game needs to be regulated in such a way that there are absolutely no questions whatsoever about the integrity of the game.
:rolleyes:
Pool Integrity - Odds changes after the bell, outright theft through abuse of the cancel delay, failure to close and merge pools when the gate opens, and an industry that knowingly allows this to keep happening is simply unacceptable.
The game needs a modern secure tote system fast enough to render odds and payoffs in real time.
We repeat: The game needs to be regulated in such a way that there are absolutely no questions whatsoever about the integrity of the game.
:rolleyes:
Quality of the Product - Large competitive fields please.
Shut up.
Not that it probably would have mattered anyway - but HANA should have had a singular goal - to reduce takeout and fight any attempts at increases.
They aren't succeeding at either the former or latter. In fact, not only did they increase the takeout in California ... but they publicly did it with the claim that it will be healthy for business. :eek:
Finally, I stumbled across this today at Paulick's site:
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/platt-and-rebate-shops-not-friends-of-racing/
Get a load of this:
Jeff Platt is a smart guy. He’s a horseplayer who has developed a handicapping software system. He also is the high profile president of the vocal group known as Horseplayers Association of North America, or HANA, which is attempting to position itself as the “voice” of horseplayers. HANA was established a couple of years ago and has done some good things, including a ranking of racetracks that uses takeout, field size, and product availability on ADW systems as its measures.
In emails he has sent out and in a sales pitch on his website, Platt has been soliciting horseplayers to sign up with rebaters that he said he is associated with. Platt said he has no “financial stake” in those rebate operations, though he admitted to the Paulick Report that he receives commissions whenever someone he recruits becomes a customer of a rebater. Platt, thus, has a financial interest in moving horseplayers from the racetrack to rebate operations.He is their pimp.
Yeah, he's so high profile - that I can't even remember his screen name at Pace Advantage without double checking.
Basically, Paulick unzips his trousers and tries to piss all over a man who is an unpaid president of that veritable Juggernaut volunteer army known as HANA - because his personal website sent out an advertisement E-mail to his betting customers.
I tip my hat for at least trying HANA - but you aren't up to it. Bob Knight pretty much said it best "if rape is inevitable - why not just relax and enjoy it?" - and we both know it's not exactly the horse player they are raping ... they have rebate shops for the big players, offshore bookies for the small fries to get deals, and A LOT of stuff in between. They are merely raping the future of horse racing - any chance at all for good growth and useful new fans.