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The Indomitable DrugS
11-01-2010, 04:41 PM
Quality Road in front by a length

Haynesfield 2nd by 1

First Dude 3rd by 1.5

Morning Line 4th by 2.5

Etched 5th by 5

Musket Man 6th by 6.5

Paddy O' Prado 7th by 9

Lookin at Lucky 8th by 9.5

Blame 9th by 10

Fly Down 10th by 11.5

Pleasant Prince 11th by 15

Zenyatta 12th by 28

Espoir City and Gio Ponti: ?


Obviously Mike Smith isn't going to allow Zenyatta to be 28 lengths back with just four furlongs to go - and he won't spot 18.5 and 18 length cushions to horses like Lookin At Lucky and Blame - who both can finish well.

She's going to have to work considerably harder early on than she has at any point this year... how that impacts her ability to finish remains to be seen.

Fly Down is clearly the horse who benefits most from a fast pace. Pleasant Prince isn't very good, but with Rosario, he'll run better than expected if he gets a hot and contested pace like he and Ice Box both did in the Fla Derby.

Haynesfield and Zenyatta would be the two who clearly benefit most from a slow pace.

Coach Pants
11-01-2010, 04:43 PM
She's going to have to work considerably harder early on than she has at any point this year... how that impacts her ability to finish remains to be seen.

pulled up; vanned off

10 pnt move up
11-01-2010, 05:22 PM
pulled up; vanned off

here is hoping

Clip-Clop
11-01-2010, 05:51 PM
pulled up; vanned off

Jockey switch to Desormeaux?

Dahoss
11-01-2010, 10:46 PM
She's going to have to work considerably harder early on than she has at any point this year... how that impacts her ability to finish remains to be seen.



Good stuff DrugS. I suppose if she really is the superhorse some say she is, she will be able to run significantly faster early and still finish. I'll be shocked if she can and tip my hat to her.

OldDog
11-02-2010, 08:21 AM
pulled up; vanned off
here is hoping

I can hardly imagine an uglier pair of comments.

Princess Doreen
11-02-2010, 08:41 AM
I can hardly imagine an uglier pair of comments.

:tro:

slotdirt
11-02-2010, 08:43 AM
Great stuff, DrugSy. Thanks for that.

Revidere
11-02-2010, 08:58 AM
I can hardly imagine an uglier pair of comments.

Those are objective comments of hardened horseplayers.

Not ugly, Runyanesque.

Indian Charlie
11-02-2010, 09:04 AM
I can hardly imagine an uglier pair of comments.

Context.

Look it up.

randallscott35
11-02-2010, 09:26 AM
I can hardly imagine an uglier pair of comments.

Puhleeze, everything Coach says is tongue in cheek. So what it is tasteless. This isn't church...He doesn't want to see any horse hurt.

OldDog
11-02-2010, 09:31 AM
Puhleeze, everything Coach says is tongue in cheek. So what it is tasteless. This isn't church...He doesn't want to see any horse hurt.

Thanks for clarifying.

Coach Pants
11-02-2010, 09:34 AM
I can hardly imagine an uglier pair of comments.

:tro:

Those are objective comments of hardened horseplayers.

Not ugly, Runyanesque.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6rcB8OE_w4

Princess Doreen
11-02-2010, 09:44 AM
Tasteless comments - even in jest or digging up the ghost of Damon.

What if something like this did happen? It's all too possible.

I've witnessed 3 fatalities of TB fillies at BC events, and it makes my skin crawl to think that another could ever occur.

Sorry if I don't buy into the some brands of humor.

Coach Pants
11-02-2010, 09:49 AM
Feigned outrage is the best.

hockey2315
11-02-2010, 09:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6rcB8OE_w4

That noise haunts me daily. I'm sure that guy loves being an internet phenomenon for that reason.

Princess Doreen
11-02-2010, 09:52 AM
Feigned outrage is the best.

Tough words coming from someone who is never outraged about anything.:p

randallscott35
11-02-2010, 09:54 AM
Tough words coming from someone who is never outraged about anything.:p

If I may speak for Coach I think he is outraged with the direction of our country and the lack of leadership....but no horsey outrage.

Coach Pants
11-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Tough words coming from someone who is never outraged about anything.:p
I try not to let my feigned outrage get to the point where I want to censor others.
Feigned meditation helps. I'm usually ohhhming when reading your posts.

Indian Charlie
11-02-2010, 10:28 AM
I try not to let my feigned outrage get to the point where I want to censor others.
Feigned meditation helps. I'm usually ohhhming when reading your posts.

Do black people meditate?

ateamstupid
11-02-2010, 10:32 AM
Do black people meditate?

Have you never heard Ruthel Thimmons speak?

Indian Charlie
11-02-2010, 11:20 AM
Have you never heard Ruthel Thimmons speak?

At the risk of making Zenyattards think I'm a hater of black people, I'm not really a fan of his.

tector
11-02-2010, 11:40 AM
Do black people meditate?

What the hell is an "Indiana Dog"?

Smooth Operator
11-02-2010, 11:52 AM
Pretty quick work for that old Cali mare the other day



Jus throwin it out there…

The Indomitable DrugS
11-02-2010, 12:50 PM
Pretty quick work for that old Cali mare the other day



Jus throwin it out there…

Obviously Shirreffs is trying to put some more speed into her. Those were two extremely interesting works.

Having a fresh horse jump in halfway through the work and continuing on with Zenyatta past the wire.

I think she did more actual running in her last workout than she's done in any of her races this year save perhaps the Vanity.

Clip-Clop
11-02-2010, 12:52 PM
Obviously Shirreffs is trying to put some more speed into her. Those were two extremely interesting works.

Having a fresh horse jump in halfway through the work and continuing on with Zenyatta past the wire.

I think she did more actual running in her last workout than she's done in any of her races this year save perhaps the Vanity.

Maybe Smith wasn't kidding when he said we were going to see something we had never seen before. She is actually gonna try??

ateamstupid
11-02-2010, 12:54 PM
At the risk of making Zenyattards think I'm a hater of black people, I'm not really a fan of his.

The Archie Bunker avatar doesn't help.

Indian Charlie
11-02-2010, 01:25 PM
The Archie Bunker avatar doesn't help.

Yeah. It really is a tribute though to TFF. They remind me of one another.