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Kasept
09-02-2010, 06:55 AM
Enormous payout of $377k on Saratoga double carryover certainly was earned by the 4 successful tickets which included the Twin Spires Players' Pool group. Sequence proved as tricky as it seemed with only one favorite coming through (Peat Bay in the opening leg 5th) ahead of winners from all over the board at mutuels of $8.60, $10.60, $9.70, $21.40 and $16.80. None were utterly impossible, though 7-1 Slick Wheelie in the nightcap had been away an eternity which featured stem cell replacement therapy on an injury suspensory! My opinion wasn't close on the multis, but I managed one sizable hit in the P. G. Johnson where 'Best Value' second choice Fancy Point became a universal good thing bet down to 7-2, and zipped home in front of the other three tabs for a $700 tri abnd $2,800 super. Hope you did OK!


SARATOGA RACE COURSE


POST-SCRATCHES


1st: OC/C, 4+, 19f-National Fences (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #4 Lead Us Not 5-2 2nd
Best Value: #8 Riddle 5-1 5th
Next Best: #1e Fisher entry 6-1 4th/8th


2nd: MDN CLM, 2yo, 6f (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #1e Ward entry 7-2 9th/10th
Best Value: #7 All for Peace 10-1 4th
Next Best: #5 Wildcat Stevie 5-1 6th
Exotics Use: #6 Trippi's Tiger 6-1 5th


3rd: CLM, F&M-3+, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

Best Value: #7 Wall of Worry 3-1 4th
Next Best: #6 Healthy Debate 5-2 WON ($7.10)
Exotics Use: #3 Sudden Silver 5-1 4th
Super Add: #1 Lorraine in Spain 8-1 6th


4th: Riskaverse, 3yo-F, 1m-IT (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 House of Grace 5-1 5th
Best Value: #6 In Te Domine 8-1 3rd
Next Best: #2 Senada 4-1 7th
Super Add: #9 Snow Top Mountain 7-2 2nd


5th: MSW-NY, 2yo-F, 8.5f-T (P6, P3, DD, Super)

$100k Guaranteed P6 Starts Here..

Most Likely: #5 Aptphilly 5-2 3rd
Best Value: #8 Adriatic Pearls 20-1 9th
Next Best: #4 SCR
Super Add: #3 English Ivy 6-1 5th


<$75 P4 Play:

2: 1-7
3: 3-6-7
4: 2-3-6-9
5: 4-5-8

2x3x4x3 = $72


6th: OC/N1X, F&M-3+, 11f-IT (G/S, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #4 Sweet Tune 4-1 5th
Best Value: #3 Dyani 5-1 2nd
Next Best: #7 Muhaawara 4-1 6th
Super Add: #2 Emerald Beach 8-1 3rd


7th: MSW, 2yo, 5.5f (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Watch board for clues on how live #4 Modest is..

Most Likely #9 Technique 6-1 WON ($8.60)
Best Value: #5 Plainview 15-1 5th
Next Best: #4 Modest 3-1 9th
Super Add: #1 It's Truly Ahvee 5-1 3rd


8th: CLM, F&M-3+, 8.5f-T (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 Platinumplus 8-5 WON ($3.20)
Best Value: #5 Shehashighhopes 6-1 7th
Next Best: #7 No Rhyme Or Reason 6-1 4th
Super Add: #1 Lovely Promise 6-1 5th


9th: Riskaverse, 3yo-F, 1m-IT (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #7 Queen of the Creek 5-1 WON ($10.40)
Best Value: #6 Doe Run 8-1 4th
Next Best: #8 Kittylicious 15-1 3rd
Exotics Use: #3 Ultimate Class 20-1 2nd

$1 Exacta (7-3) Paid $105.00
$1 Trifecta (7-3-8) Paid $1,193.00
$1 Superfecta (7-3-8-6) Paid $5,397.50


10th: NY-MSW, 2yo, 8.5f-T (Super)

Most Likely: #3 Theresmyeverything 2-1 WON ($6.60)
Best Value: #1 Mazara Del Vallo 8-1 3rd
Next Best: #2 Freud's Debut 8-1 4th
Super Add: #11 Haya's Boy 15-1 8th


<$200 P6 Play:

5: 5-8
6: 3-4-7
7: 1-4-5-9
8: 3-5
9: 7
10: 1-3

2x3x4x2x1x2 = 96 x $2 = $192


<$50 P4 Play:

7: 1-4-5-9
8: 3-5
9: 6-7
10: 1-2-3

4x2x2x3 = $48 $1 P4 (9-3/6-7-3/7/12/13) Paid $106.25


Good luck!
Steve

GPK
09-02-2010, 07:56 AM
English Ivy might be ok and should appreciate the grass. Her damn is half to Magical Fantasy.

Clip-Clop
09-02-2010, 09:37 AM
No love for Tidal Pool? D. Wayne or something else?

JerseyJ
09-02-2010, 09:46 AM
No love for Tidal Pool? D. Wayne or something else?

Now granted Lukas is having a tough meet and he's not what he once was, but that division is clearly the weaker of the two, and I don't think the favorites are much. Awesome Maria has to be played against off the layoff and on the grass, Senada just isn't that good, and House of Grace is extremely overrated as well and isn't really much. Snow Top Mountain is ok, but she seems to need a total collapse to get the job done. I think Neenie's House is interesting if she draws in off the AE list off a nice win last time at Monmouth, and I will say one thing about Tidal Pool although she's off form badly, is that her lone turf race as a 2YO was pretty good getting a 78 figure as a 2YO on the grass ain't bad, and not finishing far behind a very good graded stakes horse in Check the Label in that turf race at Churchill so if she handles the grass, she could jump up at a price. Think those are two main dangers to Snow Top Mountain, and if Awesome Maria, Senada, or House of Grace win I will lose.

Kasept
09-02-2010, 09:55 AM
No love for Tidal Pool? D. Wayne or something else?

Can't like. Dirt horse first and foremost and Maragh has been losing ground on every ride. Would rather get a horse like Dattt Echo in the mix at a bonus mutuel with the most likely performers..

Good luck! Don't let me talk you off Tidal Pool. She's a nice filly but I just don't see her in this spot.

Clip-Clop
09-02-2010, 09:58 AM
Now granted Lukas is having a tough meet and he's not what he once was, but that division is clearly the weaker of the two, and I don't think the favorites are much. Awesome Maria has to be played against off the layoff and on the grass, Senada just isn't that good, and House of Grace is extremely overrated as well and isn't really much. Snow Top Mountain is ok, but she seems to need a total collapse to get the job done. I think Neenie's House is interesting if she draws in off the AE list off a nice win last time at Monmouth, and I will say one thing about Tidal Pool although she's off form badly, is that her lone turf race as a 2YO was pretty good getting a 78 figure as a 2YO on the grass ain't bad, and not finishing far behind a very good graded stakes horse in Check the Label in that turf race at Churchill so if she handles the grass, she could jump up at a price. Think those are two main dangers to Snow Top Mountain, and if Awesome Maria, Senada, or House of Grace win I will lose.
Tough race indeed...should have started the PK-6 with this one! I thought the turf might help her chances.

Kasept
09-02-2010, 09:59 AM
SAR SCR/CHG'S (http://www.equibase.com/premium/changes/SAR-changes.asp)

GPK
09-02-2010, 10:00 AM
Can't like. Dirt horse first and foremost and Maragh has been losing ground on every ride. Would rather get a horse like Dattt Echo in the mix at a bonus mutuel with the most likely performers..

Good luck! Don't let me talk you off Tidal Pool. She's a nice filly but I just don't see her in this spot.

SB, what about Lisa's Booby Trap? Just playing against in her turf debut?

Dahoss
09-02-2010, 10:14 AM
In the 1st division Senada feels like a horse that will run much better with the addition of blinkers and she's due a decent trip off of her last three. I expect her to be either 1st or 2nd. I do think Silver La Belle is a little interesting, at least underneath as she is a half to Silverfoot who won over 900k on grass.

In the 2nd division you have to play against Lisa's Booby Trap, don't you? Nice story and neat horse, but she has all of the makings of a giant underlay. I'm using Sea Road, Kittylicious and the Italian filly Marseria. She's a mystery, but I respect Toner too much to leave her out.

RockHardTen1985
09-02-2010, 10:21 AM
In the 1st division Senada feels like a horse that will run much better with the addition of blinkers and she's due a decent trip off of her last three. I expect her to be either 1st or 2nd. I do think Silver La Belle is a little interesting, at least underneath as she is a half to Silverfoot who won over 900k on grass.

In the 2nd division you have to play against Lisa's Booby Trap, don't you? Nice story and neat horse, but she has all of the makings of a giant underlay. I'm using Sea Road, Kittylicious and the Italian filly Marseria. She's a mystery, but I respect Toner too much to leave her out.


Seneda feels like a total trap to me. A horse they have been waiting for to get good and it likley will never happen. She is 1/7 and clearly has some hang in her. The only positive I see is Javier, and thats not enough. Im not sure the blinkers are going to help her at all. We will see. I think the 6 has a lot more left to give and is worth a play at a decent price for Linda. When I put my pick 4's in I will likely use 4,5 horses and Seneda is not one of them.

GPK
09-02-2010, 10:23 AM
In the 1st division Senada feels like a horse that will run much better with the addition of blinkers and she's due a decent trip off of her last three. I expect her to be either 1st or 2nd. I do think Silver La Belle is a little interesting, at least underneath as she is a half to Silverfoot who won over 900k on grass.

In the 2nd division you have to play against Lisa's Booby Trap, don't you? Nice story and neat horse, but she has all of the makings of a giant underlay. I'm using Sea Road, Kittylicious and the Italian filly Marseria. She's a mystery, but I respect Toner too much to leave her out.

I know Kimmel is having an awful meet, but if you're playing against Lisa's Booby Trap, why wouldn't you use Khancord Kid? Will be fitter coming in 2nd off and has a touch more back class than the others. Could get overlooked as well.

dagolfer33
09-02-2010, 10:31 AM
I could care less about your fake plays and your opinion.

It's not fake plays, it's reverses. Get it right.

Dahoss
09-02-2010, 10:35 AM
I know Kimmel is having an awful meet, but if you're playing against Lisa's Booby Trap, why wouldn't you use Khancord Kid? Will be fitter coming in 2nd off and has a touch more back class than the others. Could get overlooked as well.

She can win, but like you said, Kimmel has been so bad it's tough to like his horses. Like you said, she might get overlooked and has been running against better. But she had a pretty sweet trip last time and was somewhat empty late.

She has as good a shot as any though.

GPK
09-02-2010, 10:39 AM
She can win, but like you said, Kimmel has been so bad it's tough to like his horses. Like you said, she might get overlooked and has been running against better. But she had a pretty sweet trip last time and was somewhat empty late.

She has as good a shot as any though.

Against much tougher than these, don't you think?

Dahoss
09-02-2010, 10:44 AM
Against much tougher than these, don't you think?

Without a doubt. The problem for me is I think they are all pretty fairly matched and I'd rather not use a horse whose trainer is so cold.

It's a fascinating race though and I can see a case being made for 6 or 7 horses. Good luck today.

GPK
09-02-2010, 10:47 AM
Without a doubt. The problem for me is I think they are all pretty fairly matched and I'd rather not use a horse whose trainer is so cold.

It's a fascinating race though and I can see a case being made for 6 or 7 horses. Good luck today.

Good luck to you too. I'd like to play the late 4, but I suck at MSW 2yo dirt sprints, so I would clearly have to use the all button in the 7th.:wf

Dahoss
09-02-2010, 10:55 AM
Good luck to you too. I'd like to play the late 4, but I suck at MSW 2yo dirt sprints, so I would clearly have to use the all button in the 7th.:wf

That race might make the pick 4 unplayable for me. I'm a little interested in Scoville, but I wouldn't be surprised if any of the horses won.

GPK
09-02-2010, 10:58 AM
That race might make the pick 4 unplayable for me. I'm a little interested in Scoville, but I wouldn't be surprised if any of the horses won.

Is the Rice a play against in the last?

Dahoss
09-02-2010, 11:03 AM
Is the Rice a play against in the last?

I don't think so. I'm using both of her horses and Mazaro Del Vallo a little.

GPK
09-02-2010, 11:05 AM
I don't think so. I'm using both of her horses and Mazaro Del Vallo a little.

Thats the only other one in there I like.

hoovesupsideyourhead
09-02-2010, 11:56 AM
Thats the only other one in there I like.

so:D

hoovesupsideyourhead
09-02-2010, 12:02 PM
coupon can run abit ..

Clip-Clop
09-02-2010, 01:46 PM
Can't like. Dirt horse first and foremost and Maragh has been losing ground on every ride. Would rather get a horse like Dattt Echo in the mix at a bonus mutuel with the most likely performers..

Good luck! Don't let me talk you off Tidal Pool. She's a nice filly but I just don't see her in this spot.

I'll say. That was awful.

dpkovalesky
09-02-2010, 04:39 PM
9th: Riskaverse, 3yo-F, 1m-IT (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #7 Queen of the Creek 5-1
Best Value: #6 Doe Run 8-1
Next Best: #8 Kittylicious 15-1
Exotics Use: #3 Ultimate Class 20-1



WOW, VERY NICE!

ateamstupid
09-02-2010, 04:40 PM
Very impressive.

randallscott35
09-02-2010, 04:41 PM
awesome, thought that tri would pay better

Kasept
09-02-2010, 04:45 PM
WOW, VERY NICE!
Thx. I'll be here all week...

I think that pretty well closes out the meet! Hope many of you got FAT.

Huge effort by Dominguez on Kitty to get third.

bahughes
09-02-2010, 04:46 PM
great call in the 9th thought the tri would pay a lot more

smuthg
09-02-2010, 04:47 PM
Great job Steve!

Antitrust32
09-02-2010, 04:48 PM
Thx. I'll be here all week...

I think that pretty well closes out the meet! Hope many of you got FAT.

Huge effort by Dominguez on Kitty to get third.

hope you collected well off that fine picking Steve! :$:

randallscott35
09-02-2010, 04:58 PM
Thx. I'll be here all week...

I think that pretty well closes out the meet! Hope many of you got FAT.

Huge effort by Dominguez on Kitty to get third.

Can't see how you top that, I would take the rest of the meet off too!

dagolfer33
09-02-2010, 05:11 PM
:$:

Kasept
09-03-2010, 03:29 AM
hope you collected well off that fine picking Steve! :$:

Thx Lori (And everybody else!) Did nicely with tri only, but the best part was the guys in the backyard going nuts who played... Larry Kraynak, Steve and Ed Popyak are in from Pittsburgh and got whole from it, and Rogo, long time denizen of the Spa by the Cue and a recent DT adduition, pulled in $3k+. Was also pleased for Gary and Jim Crocetto who get black type for the coninually improving Kittylicious. Ramon gave her a brilliant ride to get third.