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Kasept
08-03-2010, 04:57 PM
3rd (2:06) Loudonville S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $70,000

1 Stormandaprayer Maragh R 118 L
2 Nonna Mia Velazquez J R 118 L
3 Simply Spiteful Rose J 118 L
4 Funny Feeling Garcia Alan 122 L
5 Lisa's Booby Trap Desormeaux K J 118 L
6 Zermatt Castellano J J 118 L



8th (4:56) John's Call S.

1 5/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $70,000

1 Always First (GB) Albarado R J 119 L
2 Jade's Revenge Solis A 119 L
3 Solitaire Leparoux J R 121 L
4 Attempted Humor Gomez G K 117 Blk-Off L
5 Dry Martini Prado E S 119 L
6 Lignon's Hero (BRZ) Garcia Alan 117 L
7 Coolcullen Times (IRE) Castellano J J 117 L
8 Lime Rickey Velasquez C 115
9 Gangbuster Desormeaux K J 121 L
10 Leading On Luzzi M J 115 L
11 Perfect Shower Velazquez J R 121 L
12 Silver Mountain Dominguez R A 115 L
AE Rockin' Joe Camacho E 115 L
AE Thabazimbi Lezcano J 115
AE Southwest Cohen D 115
AE Romp (ARG) Albarado R J 115 L

NTamm1215
08-03-2010, 05:39 PM
3rd (2:06) Loudonville S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $70,000

1 Stormandaprayer Maragh R 118 L
2 Nonna Mia Velazquez J R 118 L
3 Simply Spiteful Rose J 118 L
4 Funny Feeling Garcia Alan 122 L
5 Lisa's Booby Trap Desormeaux K J 118 L
6 Zermatt Castellano J J 118 L



I know Lisa's Booby Trap is kind of a joke but four of these fillies were nominated to the Test. It seems awfully counter-productive to run this race the day before the Test.

NT

ateamstupid
08-05-2010, 09:28 PM
Why is she a joke?

The John's Call is a skullbuster by the way.

the_fat_man
08-05-2010, 09:35 PM
Solitaire handled Perfect Shower pretty easily in the Singspiel (before Spice Route crushed him late); and he won this race last year. But Attfield is putting Velazquez up, a huge improvement over Jones, and his go to jock lately. Of course, I'm not taking a close look at the race until I know for sure it's ON the turf.

hockey2315
08-05-2010, 09:41 PM
Why is she a joke?

You must not get TVG. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKSSPtd33_8

ateamstupid
08-05-2010, 09:47 PM
You must not get TVG. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKSSPtd33_8

Maybe I'm not getting the joke. It's a great story, she's got talent and that field tomorrow sure as hell isn't anything special.

Scav
08-05-2010, 09:52 PM
You must not get TVG. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKSSPtd33_8

Doesn't mean she is a joke

She has the fastest sprint number in the race, albeit at Finger Lakes and I have no idea how solid the number is.

RockHardTen1985
08-05-2010, 09:56 PM
Doesn't mean she is a joke

She might not be a joke, but her beyers have declined all 3 starts. Im sure Ateam will love that.....
I would be stunned if she is in the super.

ateamstupid
08-05-2010, 09:59 PM
She might not be a joke, but her beyers have declined all 3 starts. Im sure Ateam will love that.....
I would be stunned if she is in the super.

As if the stars hadn't already aligned enough for her to win this.

RockHardTen1985
08-05-2010, 10:01 PM
As if the stars hadn't already aligned enough for her to win this.


Then this should really set her up, SHE HAS 0% CHANCE TO WIN THIS RACE. She is a lot more likely to run 5th or last.

Scav
08-05-2010, 10:02 PM
She might not be a joke, but her beyers have declined all 3 starts. Im sure Ateam will love that.....
I would be stunned if she is in the super.

To counter your Beyer decline, she is 0-2 = x in terms of Thorograph, this pattern has yielded a return to the top alot.

She runs her debut race, which was huge, she will win

declansharbor
08-05-2010, 10:02 PM
As if the stars hadn't already aligned enough for her to win this.

:tro:

ateamstupid
08-05-2010, 10:02 PM
Yeah, Nonna Mia really is the second coming of Xtra Heat. You're right.

RockHardTen1985
08-05-2010, 10:05 PM
Yeah, Nonna Mia really is the second coming of Xtra Heat. You're right.

I think this group SUCKS. All of them, not just the Finger Lakes horse.

ateamstupid
08-05-2010, 10:10 PM
I think this group SUCKS. All of them, not just the Finger Lakes horse.

1. Everybody in the race sucks
2. THIS HORSE HAS 0% CHANCE AND WILL NEVER HIT THE BOARD IN EVER

NTamm1215
08-05-2010, 10:17 PM
To counter your Beyer decline, she is 0-2 = x in terms of Thorograph, this pattern has yielded a return to the top alot.

She runs her debut race, which was huge, she will win

I'm not really an avid Sheets user but based on the patterns each of these fillies have, isn't it more likely that Nonna Mia or Zermatt run big races?

The problem, of course with every horse in this race not named Funny Feeling is that you're banking on them rating and being successful. If you have the stones to play a horse in here who you think is speed of the speed you're taking a gigantic chance.

NT

RockHardTen1985
08-05-2010, 10:18 PM
I'm not really an avid Sheets user but based on the patterns each of these fillies have, isn't it more likely that Nonna Mia or Zermatt run big races?

The problem, of course with every horse in this race not named Funny Feeling is that you're banking on them rating and being successful. If you have the stones to play a horse in here who you think is speed of the speed you're taking a gigantic chance.

NT


I think Nonna Mia will be the speed of the speed and I think Zermatt will rate.

ateamstupid
08-05-2010, 10:34 PM
There's really no way Nonna Mia outruns Stormandaprayer to the first quarter, and so far NM has shown absolutely no ability to rate. I think she's a terrible bet at 2-1. Even though the race sets up for Funny Feeling, she had no excuse in the Prioress so she's hard to take at 5-2. Zermatt beat a terrible MSW field last time out and also isn't guaranteed to rate. How anybody can eliminate LBT is beyond me.

Scav
08-05-2010, 10:37 PM
There's really no way Nonna Mia outruns Stormandaprayer to the first quarter, and so far NM has shown absolutely no ability to rate. I think she's a terrible bet at 2-1. Even though the race sets up for Funny Feeling, she had no excuse in the Prioress so she's hard to take at 5-2. Zermatt beat a terrible MSW field last time out and also isn't guaranteed to rate. How anybody can eliminate LBT is beyond me.

Especially coming off the route race, she will most likely automatically be behind these fillies. LBT might fall into the perfect trip.

I can really care less about the race, but I will watch this one and cheer for her to win, nothing wrong with 'hope'

the_fat_man
08-05-2010, 10:50 PM
The problem, of course with every horse in this race not named Funny Feeling is that you're banking on them rating and being successful. If you have the stones to play a horse in here who you think is speed of the speed you're taking a gigantic chance.

NT

On this track? Surely you jest. How many off the pace, outside winners have there been so far?

NTamm1215
08-05-2010, 10:56 PM
On this track? Surely you jest. How many off the pace, outside winners have there been so far?

My comment dealt more with figuring out who the speed of the speed is in this field and then betting that horse. It's far from an easy task.

NT

RockHardTen1985
08-05-2010, 11:00 PM
There's really no way Nonna Mia outruns Stormandaprayer to the first quarter, and so far NM has shown absolutely no ability to rate. I think she's a terrible bet at 2-1. Even though the race sets up for Funny Feeling, she had no excuse in the Prioress so she's hard to take at 5-2. Zermatt beat a terrible MSW field last time out and also isn't guaranteed to rate. How anybody can eliminate LBT is beyond me.

I think NM clears.

the_fat_man
08-05-2010, 11:16 PM
My comment dealt more with figuring out who the speed of the speed is in this field and then betting that horse. It's far from an easy task.

NT

Songandaprayer should have the lead early.

ateamstupid
08-05-2010, 11:18 PM
I think NM clears.

Based on what? Stormandaprayer is significantly faster than her early.

hockey2315
08-05-2010, 11:25 PM
There's a 0% chance that Nonna Mia can beat the 1 to the lead. . . She has an incredible amount of speed. The only horse close to capable of running with her early is the 6, who has no chance to get to her from that post.

johnny pinwheel
08-06-2010, 07:22 AM
Songandaprayer should have the lead early.

i agree, and if the track plays like it has, 5-1 will be a good risk on this horse.

ateamstupid
08-06-2010, 02:08 PM
Then this should really set her up, SHE HAS 0% CHANCE TO WIN THIS RACE. She is a lot more likely to run 5th or last.

I think Nonna Mia will be the speed of the speed and I think Zermatt will rate.

You're the best.

Scav
08-06-2010, 02:09 PM
What a great story. Now sell her :)

randallscott35
08-06-2010, 02:09 PM
You're the best.

He's so bad it hurts.

Coach Pants
08-06-2010, 02:20 PM
I need to check these threads before betting.

randallscott35
08-06-2010, 02:21 PM
What a great story. Now sell her :)

why so someone like Pletcher can train her?

smuthg
08-06-2010, 02:26 PM
What a great story. Now sell her :)

I found these two paragraphs from the NY Times article amusing:

Hunt agreed and Snyder’s one-horse stable was back in business. But his filly still needed a name. He came up with Lisa’s Booby Trap, named in part after his wife and in part after a strip club in Florida he admits he likes to frequent.

Working with Lisa’s Booby Trap, Snyder figured out that the reason she was having so many problems was because of her feet. Not only was one a clubfoot, but another was inordinately flat, which caused her every movement to be awkward. Snyder experimented with different shoes and found a combination that solved the problem.

Coach Pants
08-06-2010, 02:29 PM
I wonder if the bleeding heart club will still find it a heartwarming story now and not one coming from a complete whackjob.

So now we have a reincarnated wife that's a horse with a name partly due to a strip club. If I didn't know any better I'd wager that he's in the Tea Party.

Scav
08-06-2010, 02:32 PM
why so someone like Pletcher can train her?

He supposedly had a 500k offer on the horse, if it is real money, and actually a real offer, he needs to sell that horse to help set him up for his future.

Unless the guy is a multi millionaire, which I doubt since he didn't have the full $5k to pay for the horse, this is a no brainer now.

I completely understand why he didn't do it before, but they are like tomatos, they eventually go bad

Coach Pants
08-06-2010, 02:35 PM
He supposedly had a 500k offer on the horse, if it is real money, and actually a real offer, he needs to sell that horse to help set him up for his future.

Unless the guy is a multi millionaire, which I doubt since he didn't have the full $5k to pay for the horse, this is a no brainer now.

I completely understand why he didn't do it before, but they are like tomatos, they eventually go bad
Well the horse is his wife so she probably has the final say on being sold. Just depends if she was faithful to him in human form.

ateamstupid
08-06-2010, 02:35 PM
I wonder if the bleeding heart club will still find it a heartwarming story now and not one coming from a complete whackjob.

So now we have a reincarnated wife that's a horse with a name partly due to a strip club. If I didn't know any better I'd wager that he's in the Tea Party.

Mista Sunshine. Even if he is a weirdo, it's still a cool story/horse.

Coach Pants
08-06-2010, 02:37 PM
Mista Sunshine. Even if he is a weirdo, it's still a cool story/horse.
I'm holding out support for the future reincarnation of Christopher Hitchens. He'll smoke Booby Trap and drink a handle of Old Charter when he's done.

Danzig
08-06-2010, 02:40 PM
I'm holding out support for the future reincarnation of Christopher Hitchens. He'll smoke Booby Trap and drink a handle of Old Charter when he's done.

:tro:

randallscott35
08-06-2010, 03:24 PM
He supposedly had a 500k offer on the horse, if it is real money, and actually a real offer, he needs to sell that horse to help set him up for his future.

Unless the guy is a multi millionaire, which I doubt since he didn't have the full $5k to pay for the horse, this is a no brainer now.

I completely understand why he didn't do it before, but they are like tomatos, they eventually go bad

Thomas, have you seen this dude? He has a foot in the grave already. All the money in the world won't change that. I hope he just keeps her.

bonniejay
08-06-2010, 05:18 PM
I know Lisa's Booby Trap is kind of a joke but four of these fillies were nominated to the Test. It seems awfully counter-productive to run this race the day before the Test.

NT

You've got to be kidding! A Joke?? She won by six lengths! This horse is for real and a testament to all of us small breeders/big dreamers!! I couldn't wait to place my bet on her this morning. What did you think, Steve??:rolleyes:

bonniejay
08-06-2010, 05:20 PM
She might not be a joke, but her beyers have declined all 3 starts. Im sure Ateam will love that.....
I would be stunned if she is in the super.

happy "stunned" ... This horse is for REAL!!

the_fat_man
08-06-2010, 05:29 PM
happy "stunned" ... This horse is for REAL!!

I didn't notice you BEFORE the race. Where were you hiding?:rolleyes:

Indian Charlie
08-06-2010, 05:31 PM
happy "stunned" ... This horse is for REAL!!

I didn't notice you BEFORE the race. Where were you hiding?:rolleyes:

Bonniejay, please ignore The Fat Man. He's an azzhole.

NTamm1215
08-06-2010, 05:46 PM
You've got to be kidding! A Joke?? She won by six lengths! This horse is for real and a testament to all of us small breeders/big dreamers!! I couldn't wait to place my bet on her this morning. What did you think, Steve??:rolleyes:

As you obviously have a problem with using time, I posted before the race and commented specifically on how four of the horses who went postward in this race were also nominated to the Test. The running of this race 24 hours before the Test surprised me.

I hope you cashed in a big way on the tremendous value this horse offered. Next time do us a favor and post in the Selections room. It's open 24 hours, so you won't have to use a clock.

NT

Scav
08-06-2010, 06:34 PM
Thomas, have you seen this dude? He has a foot in the grave already. All the money in the world won't change that. I hope he just keeps her.

Don't call me Thomas.

I don't disagree, but alot of people have had one foot in the grave and went on to enjoy the next 20 years on a beach somewhere drinking pina coladas with a 24 year old girl with huge jugs

hockey2315
08-06-2010, 06:40 PM
I think Nonna Mia will be the speed of the speed and I think Zermatt will rate.

I think NM clears.

There's a 0% chance that Nonna Mia can beat the 1 to the lead. . . She has an incredible amount of speed. The only horse close to capable of running with her early is the 6, who has no chance to get to her from that post.

Remember how many times you told me last summer that I didn't understand pace, "Joey S"?

The Indomitable DrugS
08-06-2010, 07:20 PM
Sounds like a partial description of a turf horse.

She could be - her sire was 2-for-2 on the turf and the dam ran her best lifetime Beyer on the turf despite making just one start over it - appearently in a stakes race.

RockHardTen1985
08-06-2010, 09:11 PM
You're the best.

Yup.

RockHardTen1985
08-06-2010, 09:19 PM
Remember how many times you told me last summer that I didn't understand pace, "Joey S"?


Im pretty sure I tell everyone that exact same thing when I get angry.

Kasept
08-06-2010, 09:42 PM
Sounds like a partial description of a turf horse.

She moves and has action like a turf horse.

Kasept
08-06-2010, 09:44 PM
Thomas, have you seen this dude? He has a foot in the grave already. All the money in the world won't change that. I hope he just keeps her.

He reiterated today in the winner's circle that he won't sell her.

The Indomitable DrugS
08-06-2010, 09:50 PM
He reiterated today in the winner's circle that he won't sell her.

.....

Until a gold digging stripper comes along, falls for his handsomeness, and convinces him to do otherwise.

Kasept
08-06-2010, 09:54 PM
.....

Until a gold digging stripper comes along, falls for his handsomeness, and convinces him to do otherwise.

Well....






Yeah. Probably..

Coach Pants
08-06-2010, 09:59 PM
Well....






Yeah. Probably..
:tro:

freddymo
08-06-2010, 10:10 PM
He reiterated today in the winner's circle that he won't sell her.

I am glad he scratched out of the last and ran her in this spot.. Frankel was watching today's card sitting next to Gann wondering how much it would take to get her into the barn. This one has a look that they went for... Who cares about the page the bitch can run...Frankel/Gann would have there fun with this one

The Indomitable DrugS
08-06-2010, 10:18 PM
Frankel was watching today's card sitting next to Gann wondering how much it would take to get her into the barn. This one has a look that they went for... Who cares about the page the bitch can run...Frankel/Gann would have there fun with this one

The Frankel/Gann combo probably would have employed the gold digging stripper to work her magic and put a full court press on the poor guy right after the horse won its debut by a city block at FL.

Maybe they weren't that slick - but it sure felt like it when they were still alive and going good.

freddymo
08-06-2010, 10:30 PM
The Frankel/Gann combo probably would have employed the gold digging stripper to work her magic and put a full court press on the poor guy right after the horse won its debut by a city block at FL.

Maybe they weren't that slick - but it sure felt like it when they were still alive and going good.
Seemed to me they always played the game and had fun.. Buy horses that can run instead of guessing if they can ever run. How many can you remember?

Peace Rules

NTamm1215
08-06-2010, 10:31 PM
Seemed to me they always played the game and had fun.. Buy horses that can run instead of guessing if they can ever run. How many can you remember?

Peace Rules

You and Medaglia d'Oro certainly count as well.

NT

freddymo
08-06-2010, 10:36 PM
You and Medaglia d'Oro certainly count as well.

NT

You wonder why guys like Satish etc. just dont buy these types? The guy spent 200mil on yearlings, he could have bought 100 runners that he KNEW could run a 100 plus BSF without guessing.

he did grab a piece of Curlin

The Indomitable DrugS
08-06-2010, 10:47 PM
They also bought a horse named Labamta Babe off of a trainer named Elvis Cobb after it romped in a 30K MCL race at Ellis Park .. the horse dominated the Grade 2 Santa Catalina and looked like one of the favorites for the Derby - but got hurt and didn't run again till the King's Bishop.

Also they had Midas Eyes - who ran too good to believe in his first start for them after two ok Calder races for Hatchett.

Coach Pants
08-06-2010, 11:21 PM
They also bought a horse named Labamta Babe off of a trainer named Elvis Cobb after it romped in a 30K MCL race at Ellis Park .. the horse dominated the Grade 2 Santa Catalina and looked like one of the favorites for the Derby - but got hurt and didn't run again till the King's Bishop.

Also they had Midas Eyes - who ran too good to believe in his first start for them after two ok Calder races for Hatchett.
Good ol' Elvie Cobb.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hohth70clYAJ:caselaw.findlaw.com/ky-supreme-court/1214826.html+Elvie+Cobb&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Kasept
08-07-2010, 04:45 AM
You've got to be kidding! A Joke?? She won by six lengths! This horse is for real and a testament to all of us small breeders/big dreamers!! I couldn't wait to place my bet on her this morning. What did you think, Steve??:rolleyes:

Bonnie,

If this is directed to me, I thought she was legitimate coming into the race based on her figures and the way she had won. I picked her second behind Funny Feeling who looked to get a pace set-up (but didn't rally a lick). I was surprised how easily she devoured the field.

94 Beyer by the way..

bonniejay
08-08-2010, 12:49 AM
Thanks, Steve, for seeing her as legit. I absolutely love the story on this one.. as I said, it gives all of us smaller owners that elusive hope. He paid 4.5K for her! PS: Your new hours are frustrating, but I catch you when I can.

bonniejay
08-08-2010, 12:57 AM
As you obviously have a problem with using time, I posted before the race and commented specifically on how four of the horses who went postward in this race were also nominated to the Test. The running of this race 24 hours before the Test surprised me.

I hope you cashed in a big way on the tremendous value this horse offered. Next time do us a favor and post in the Selections room. It's open 24 hours, so you won't have to use a clock.

NT

So sorry! I'm new to the board and didn't know there was a time limit on when or how you could post. Jeez, guys, take a deep breath and relax. I was just thrilled for the horse. And noo, since she went off as the favorite, I don't get to retire on my winnings.

randallscott35
08-08-2010, 01:19 AM
So sorry! I'm new to the board and didn't know there was a time limit on when or how you could post. Jeez, guys, take a deep breath and relax. I was just thrilled for the horse. And noo, since she went off as the favorite, I don't get to retire on my winnings.

Post away Bonnie. Don't take people too seriously on here. A dysfunctional family picnic here.

richard
08-08-2010, 09:04 PM
So sorry! I'm new to the board and didn't know there was a time limit on when or how you could post. Jeez, guys, take a deep breath and relax. I was just thrilled for the horse. And noo, since she went off as the favorite, I don't get to retire on my winnings.

Welcome .

trackrat59
08-08-2010, 09:29 PM
I went to the paddock to see Lisa’s Booby Trap. She’s a very tall filly and she’s absolutely stunning. She was on her toes and a handful. I didn’t know what to expect but I can tell you she has the look of a very special horse.

I can’t attest to what it must be like being a male with a stripper after me but I sure hope Tim Snyder keeps the horse. Frankly, once Hollywood buys the story he’ll have his cash and the horse too.

bonniejay
08-09-2010, 12:24 AM
Welcome .

thanks... I 'jes luv diving in on hot topics! Ho!

clyde
11-08-2010, 01:24 AM
[QUOTE=bonniejay;680463]thanks... I 'jes luv diving in on hot topics! HO


:D

clyde
11-08-2010, 01:26 AM
As you obviously have a problem with using time, I posted before the race and commented specifically on how four of the horses who went postward in this race were also nominated to the Test. The running of this race 24 hours before the Test surprised me.

I hope you cashed in a big way on the tremendous value this horse offered. Next time do us a favor and post in the Selections room. It's open 24 hours, so you won't have to use a clock.

NT

You have a knack for spotting the dumb ones.




Fine work.