View Full Version : 8/2 (SAR): Amsterdam S. (G2)
Kasept
07-30-2010, 05:37 PM
8th (4:56) Amsterdam S. (G2)
6 1/2 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000
1 Catalan Fragoso P 115 L
2 Make Note Prado E S 121 Blk-On L
3 Latigo Shore Borel C H 115 L
4 Essence Hit Man Sutherland C 121 L
5 Discreetly Mine Velazquez J R 123 L
6 Backtrack Leparoux J R 117 L
7 In Jack's Memory Mena M 115 L
8 Safe Trip Lezcano J 115 L
1A General Maximus Castellano J J 121 L
9 Rule by Night Bridgmohan S X 115 L
A-Coupled: Catalan and General Maximus
Sightseek
07-30-2010, 08:21 PM
Where is Comedereo running?
NTamm1215
07-30-2010, 11:08 PM
Where is Comedereo running?
He had a little bit of trouble (cuts and minor injuries) in that Charles Town exhibition back in June and Stidham wanted to give him until the Amsterdam. He's working steadily and should be ready to roll by then.
NT
Sightseek
07-30-2010, 11:16 PM
He had a little bit of trouble (cuts and minor injuries) in that Charles Town exhibition back in June and Stidham wanted to give him until the Amsterdam. He's working steadily and should be ready to roll by then.
NT
This is the Amsterdam...Do you mean King's Bishop?
Regular works since CT..
Delaware Park 7/28/10 Dirt 5F 1:00.20 Breezing Rank 1/21
Delaware Park 7/22/10 Dirt 5F 1:01.20 Breezing Rank 3/16
Delaware Park 7/16/10 Dirt 4F 51.00 Breezing Rank 40/56
Indian Charlie
07-31-2010, 12:30 AM
I wish I was in Amsterdam.
NTamm1215
07-31-2010, 11:20 AM
This is the Amsterdam...Do you mean King's Bishop?
Regular works since CT..
Delaware Park 7/28/10 Dirt 5F 1:00.20 Breezing Rank 1/21
Delaware Park 7/22/10 Dirt 5F 1:01.20 Breezing Rank 3/16
Delaware Park 7/16/10 Dirt 4F 51.00 Breezing Rank 40/56
Yes, I meant King's Bishop. The mind is a terrible thing to waste and lose but I can't stop it.
NT
pucknut
08-02-2010, 09:05 AM
isnt this a cold tri
3/58
super 3/58/58/1?
chalky but taking what the track is giving
thoughts?
AlreadyHome
08-02-2010, 03:05 PM
4 Essence Hit Man Sutherland C 121 L
THIS IS MY PICK
EX BOX :$:
4 5 1A
Betsy
08-02-2010, 06:33 PM
Any idea of what the Beyer should be on this ? Thanks!
hockey2315
08-02-2010, 08:19 PM
It's at 111 right now. . . no joke.
randallscott35
08-02-2010, 08:20 PM
It's at 111 right now. . . no joke.
Mineshaft baby highest figure. Cheers.:D
NTamm1215
08-02-2010, 08:22 PM
Mineshaft baby highest figure. Cheers.:D
Probably the first legitimate chance he'll have at getting a GI winner as well.
NT
randallscott35
08-02-2010, 08:22 PM
Probably the first legitimate chance he'll have at getting a GI winner as well.
NT
Maybe. Be patient.
RockHardTen1985
08-02-2010, 08:26 PM
Maybe. Be patient.
How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?
How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?
He actually throws some real fast horses speaking in terms of Thorograph, but it seems like durability is an issue with them. You see two races then a 200 day layoff pretty regularly.
The Indomitable DrugS
08-02-2010, 08:43 PM
Probably the first legitimate chance he'll have at getting a GI winner as well.
NT
What about Fly Down?
He's a perfect 3-0 lifetime in head-to-head meetings with First Dude. First Dude is a monster don't ya know.
The Indomitable DrugS
08-02-2010, 08:44 PM
He actually throws some real fast horses speaking in terms of Thorograph, but it seems like durability is an issue with them. You see two races then a 200 day layoff pretty regularly.
Casino Drive for one. Him and Big Brown's health allowed the disgrace that is Da Tara to win the Belmont in a cakewalk.
RockHardTen1985
08-02-2010, 08:45 PM
Sadly enough Casino Drive might be his best.
The Indomitable DrugS
08-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Redding Collery just beat Awesome Gem by like 7 last out and it was 7 lengths more to 3rd.
He and Discreetly Mine are at least somewhat sound ... Casino Drive was like Ironman Jon with a better pedigree and bigger following.
NTamm1215
08-02-2010, 08:48 PM
Mineshaft's top progeny by lifetime earnings:
Casino Drive $838,539
Cool Coal Man $807,328
Sacher Mine $617,366
Discreetly Mine $559,350
Coal Play $528,068
Redding Colliery $402,853
Fly Down $397,070
A. U. Miner $273,175
Monomakh $204,698
Minewander $193,400
NT
The Indomitable DrugS
08-02-2010, 08:49 PM
Who the hell is Sacher Mine?
NTamm1215
08-02-2010, 08:54 PM
Who the hell is Sacher Mine?
Another from Japan. He has a record of 6 wins, 4 seconds, 3 thirds from 16 starts.
NT
randallscott35
08-02-2010, 08:57 PM
Redding Collery just beat Awesome Gem by like 7 last out and it was 7 lengths more to 3rd.
He and Discreetly Mine are at least somewhat sound ... Casino Drive was like Ironman Jon with a better pedigree and bigger following.
They are a lot more sound than Unbridled Song and the unlimited cripples he continues to throw putting human lives at risk.
Betsy
08-02-2010, 09:02 PM
How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?
He's the leading 4th crop sire and is having a fantastic year. I was definitely disappointed in his start, but he's got some very good horses out there. So what if he's not the best son of AP Indy? That doesn't mean he's not any good.........
Betsy
08-02-2010, 09:03 PM
It's at 111 right now. . . no joke.
Thanks!!
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