Breeders' Cup Futures at Wynn

[NTamm1215]

Dave Tuley updates the Breeders' Cup Futures at Wynn each week on his website, www.viewfromvegas.com. John Avello has posted future odds for the Classic, Distaff, Sprint and Dirt Mile.

http://www.viewfromvegas.com/uploads/2010_BC_Futures-Wynn_6-21-10.pdf

NT

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

zenyatta at 7/2 bahhhhhhhhhhhh...thats funny

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I think 7/2 is a good line for the odds of Zenyatta actually running in the Classic.

I'm laughing pretty hard that they're not including her in the BC Distaff - because that's the spot she's far more likely to be entered in. As is Rachel Alexandra.

[letswastemoney]

Nice to see Life Is Sweet is 25/1 even in retirement.

[NTamm1215]

There are a couple of horses that are retired on that list.

I thought some of the sprint odds were very appealing, especially given the terrible state of that division.

NT

[Indian Charlie]

I think the Euro Juddmonte 3yo will make short work of anyone here for the Turf race.

Question is, will he be here.

[NTamm1215]

I think the Euro Juddmonte 3yo will make short work of anyone here for the Turf race.

Question is, will he be here.

Byword? If that's who you're talking about I completely agree.

I thought I read somewhere that Midday is coming back for the F/M Turf, so Juddmonte would have quite a strong hand for the entire program. Wynn usually doesn't release futures for the turf races until quite a bit later in the year, especially after getting more of an idea of what's going on with the Euros.

NT

[Indian Charlie]

Byword? If that's who you're talking about I completely agree.

I thought I read somewhere that Midday is coming back for the F/M Turf, so Juddmonte would have quite a strong hand for the entire program. Wynn usually doesn't release futures for the turf races until quite a bit later in the year, especially after getting more of an idea of what's going on with the Euros.

NT


Workforce.

[hockey2315]

Overlays in Classic:
Rail Trip
Sidney's Candy
Trappe Shot (maybe)

40-1 on Proviso seems semi-playable in the Distaff - I could see her going there.

I kind of like 18-1 on Afleet Express in the Mile and 50-1 on Trappe Shot is too high. 50-1 on First Dude would almost be playable in that spot too.

22-1 is way too high for Bribon off his last.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Even though he hasn't been on the worktab in a while - I can't believe no odds are offered on Mission Impazible for the dirt mile.

I HATED him going into the Derby - and not a lot was talked about his race - but, I think he and Conveyance were obviously the two horses you'd want out of the Derby. One set a murderous pace for 7 furlongs and only got a VERY ugly running line to show for his brilliant display of speed .. the other had a little trip trouble while up near the heat and ran sneaky well. That pace was insane considering how dull and tiring the track was.

Noble's Promise would seem like the logical future book play for a Dirt Mile if you're talking about finding something that exited the Derby .. but his sires stats are utterly Ruthian on wet racetracks and he's being shipped to Europe and all this other nonsense.

[Dunbar]

Dave Tuley updates the Breeders' Cup Futures at Wynn each week on his website, www.viewfromvegas.com. John Avello has posted future odds for the Classic, Distaff, Sprint and Dirt Mile.

http://www.viewfromvegas.com/uploads/2010_BC_Futures-Wynn_6-21-10.pdf

NT

Thanks for the link.

--Dunbar

[dalakhani]

comedero at 40-1

You can get the derby trifecta at 30-1, 22-1,75-1 respectively. Would that be totally crazy to play each of those?

[hockey2315]

Paddy's staying on the turf, Ice Box came up empty in the Belmont, and Super Saver was exposed in the Preakness.

[NTamm1215]

comedero at 40-1

You can get the derby trifecta at 30-1, 22-1,75-1 respectively. Would that be totally crazy to play each of those?

Not that I'm particularly fond of either but I'd be more inclined to take 25-1 on Fly Down than 22-1 on Ice Box.

There really are some prices on there that, at least at this point in time, make it clear how bad some divisions are. 8-1 on D'Funnybone in the Sprint? NO thanks.

NT

[Indian Charlie]

Paddy's staying on the turf, Ice Box came up empty in the Belmont, and Super Saver was exposed in the Preakness.


Did you mean to say that Paddy should never have been on dirt, Ice Box was exposed in the Belmont and Super Saver was exposed in every race away from CD?

[my miss storm cat]

Even though he hasn't been on the worktab in a while - I can't believe no odds are offered on Mission Impazible for the dirt mile.

I HATED him going into the Derby - and not a lot was talked about his race - but, I think he and Conveyance were obviously the two horses you'd want out of the Derby. One set a murderous pace for 7 furlongs and only got a VERY ugly running line to show for his brilliant display of speed .. the other had a little trip trouble while up near the heat and ran sneaky well. That pace was insane considering how dull and tiring the track was.

Noble's Promise would seem like the logical future book play for a Dirt Mile if you're talking about finding something that exited the Derby .. but his sires stats are utterly Ruthian on wet racetracks and he's being shipped to Europe and all this other nonsense.

Mission Impazible is injured and out for the rest of the year...

[miraja2]

10/1 is a bit short for a future wager this far out, but if I had to pick the winner right now I'd probably have to go with Blame.

[miraja2]

Nice to see Life Is Sweet is 25/1 even in retirement.

Perhaps they will unretire her, run her in the race, and then expect her to be named HOY.

[jwkniska]

10/1 is a bit short for a future wager this far out, but if I had to pick the winner right now I'd probably have to go with Blame.

I've got Blame booked at 10-1... liking it more and more!

[cakes44]

What is Concord Point in the dirt Mile?

[jwkniska]

What is Concord Point in the dirt Mile?

last sheet put online.... 20-1 may have changed slightly, but is ballpark.

[pweizer]

I've got Blame booked at 10-1... liking it more and more!

I just left the Wynn. Blame is now 6-1 in the Classic.

Personally, I took some action on Discreetly Mine in the sprint at 18-1.

Paul

[2Hot4TV]

zenyatta at 7/2 bahhhhhhhhhhhh...thats funny

Let see the undefeated defending Breeders Cup Champion is running in good form this year and still has not lost a race and the other possible entries are getting beat and Blame appears to be running new tops and you think its funny that the oddsmaker makes Zenyatta a 7/2 fav?:zz:

[jwkniska]

I just left the Wynn. Blame is now 6-1 in the Classic.

Personally, I took some action on Discreetly Mine in the sprint at 18-1.

Paul

I had a friend book me in at the 10-1 over the 4th of July.

[declansharbor]

What are the odds on Devil May Care in both the Distaff and BCC? Thx in advance!

[pweizer]

What are the odds on Devil May Care in both the Distaff and BCC? Thx in advance!

You can get them all here:

http://wynnlasvegas.com/#Casino/race/

Devil May Care is 5/2 in the Distaff. She is not listed in the Classic although John will give you odds on any horse if you just ask.

Paul

[NTamm1215]

John Avello has posted three BC Classic prop bets:

■ ZENYATTA PROPS -- John Avello is first again at Wynn Las Vegas, this time with a pair of Zenyatta Breeders' Cup Classic head-to-head props. Zenyatta (minus-120) is favored over Blame (minus-110), then Zenyatta (minus-130) is a bigger chalk over Lookin at Lucky (even money). Avello also lists Blame (minus-140) over Quality Road (plus-110) in the Classic.

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/five-long-shots-to-look-at-for-breeders--cup-105510903.html?ref=903

[randallscott35]

John Avello has posted three BC Classic prop bets:

■ ZENYATTA PROPS -- John Avello is first again at Wynn Las Vegas, this time with a pair of Zenyatta Breeders' Cup Classic head-to-head props. Zenyatta (minus-120) is favored over Blame (minus-110), then Zenyatta (minus-130) is a bigger chalk over Lookin at Lucky (even money). Avello also lists Blame (minus-140) over Quality Road (plus-110) in the Classic.

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/five-long-shots-to-look-at-for-breeders--cup-105510903.html?ref=903

15% takeout...no bargain. Should be 10% for bets.