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Kasept
04-21-2010, 09:43 AM
8th (4:35) Grey Goose Bewitch S. (G3)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 1 Nehantic Kat Castellano J J Tagg Barclay 118 LA 4-1
2 2 A She's Adorable Hernandez B J Jr Stidham Michael 118 LA 8-1
3 3 Sweet and Flawless Alvarado J Reed Eric R 118 LA 12-1
4 4 Floating Heart Talamo J Pletcher Todd A 118 LA 3-1
5 5 Magical Theater Maragh R Arnold George R II 118 LA 8-1
6 6 Changing Skies (IRE) Desormeaux K J Mott William I 122 LA 3-1
7 7 Lady Shakespeare Velazquez J R Attfield Roger L 118 LA 5-2

Double-Exacta-Trifecta ($.50 min)-Superfecta ($.10 min)

Kasept
04-21-2010, 09:43 AM
FRIDAY 9th (5:05) Fifth Third Elkhorn S. (G2)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Tiger's Rock Gomez G K 118 LA
2 Timeless Fashion Lopez J 118 LA
3 Sudden War (ARG) Solis A 118 LA
4 Bearpath Lenclud F 120 L
5 Expansion Leparoux J R 122 LA
6 Musketier (GER) Velazquez J R 118 LA
7 Transduction Gold Mena M 118 L
8 Pick Six Sellers S J 118 LA
9 Ascertain (IRE) Hernandez B J Jr 118 L
10 Blushing Bear Bridgmohan S X 118 L
11 Brass Hat Borel C H 118 L
12 Demarcation Castellano J J 118 LA

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 10:58 AM
FRIDAY 9th (5:05) Fifth Third Elkhorn S. (G2)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Tiger's Rock Gomez G K 118 LA
2 Timeless Fashion Lopez J 118 LA
3 Sudden War (ARG) Solis A 118 LA
4 Bearpath Lenclud F 120 L
5 Expansion Leparoux J R 122 LA
6 Musketier (GER) Velazquez J R 118 LA
7 Transduction Gold Mena M 118 L
8 Pick Six Sellers S J 118 LA
9 Ascertain (IRE) Hernandez B J Jr 118 L
10 Blushing Bear Bridgmohan S X 118 L
11 Brass Hat Borel C H 118 L
12 Demarcation Castellano J J 118 LA


Sudden War may be able to steal this.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 11:28 AM
Speed of the speed. Especially coming from Cali turf.

ateamstupid
04-22-2010, 11:39 AM
Speed of the speed.

Notoriously valuable angle for 12-furlong turf races.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 11:47 AM
Notoriously valuable angle for 12-furlong turf races.

The way KEE turf has been playing? Possibly.

booner
04-22-2010, 11:54 AM
I'm keeping an eye on Pick Six. I have a feeling he's ready for a big run.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 11:56 AM
I'm keeping an eye on Pick Six. I have a feeling he's ready for a big run.

He ran the fastest last out fig, I doubt that will be lost on the bettors but maybe...it is a large field.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 11:56 AM
I think your way way off on this race. I dont think he is the speed of the speed, but good luck.
I would almost be willing to bet he does not even make the early lead.

Ok.

NTamm1215
04-22-2010, 11:56 AM
The way KEE turf has been playing? Possibly.

The Keeneland turf has been playing to speed? There hasn't been a wire to wire winner in a week and only two races between last weekend and yesterday went to a horse that was 1st or 2nd at the pace call.

NT

hockey2315
04-22-2010, 11:58 AM
I might bet Sudden War, but I don't see the "speed-of-the-speed" thing either.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 11:58 AM
The Keeneland turf has been playing to speed? There hasn't been a wire to wire winner in a week and only two races between last weekend and yesterday went to a horse that was 1st or 2nd at the pace call.

NT

Wire to wire and playing to speed are two different things. For the totality of the meet I would say it has been much kinder to front running horses than closers.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 12:01 PM
I might bet Sudden War, but I don't see the "speed-of-the-speed" thing either.

Timeless fashion may be sent but his race on the KEE turf at 12 furlongs was forwardly placed but hardly winging it....I like Sudden War's pattern and price.

NTamm1215
04-22-2010, 12:02 PM
Wire to wire and playing to speed are two different things. For the totality of the meet I would say it has been much kinder to front running horses than closers.

Thanks for the distinction. I think it's been a fair course.

NT

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 12:06 PM
Price? He is the third choice ML, with Mcpeek and coming out of 2 Cali graded stakes I could see him being the chalk.... I dont get the price appeal either. I dont get this horse at all, what was his excuse 2 back when he got away with 49.4-1.15-2.05.2 and was basicley destroyed late?

When someone likes a horse why do you think that person is trying to convince you? I don't give a **** who you like or dislike. In a 12 horse field there are plenty of places to bet. Find one.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 12:15 PM
I dont, but you have given 3 reassons for liking this horse and 2 of them are just stupid, and false..... Speed and price appeal? He wont be on the lead and you will be lucky to get 5-1.

I didn't realize 6-1 was a terrible price if you like a horse....and if 12 horses go he will be that or higher I would think. If he's 3-1 I surely like him less. We'll see.

booner
04-22-2010, 12:49 PM
FWIW, in the last 32 races run at 1.5 miles on the Keeneland turf, one horse has wired the field. During that same span, 7 horses that led the race for 1.25 miles or entering the stretch finished second.

knickslions2
04-22-2010, 01:01 PM
Price? He is the third choice ML, with Mcpeek and coming out of 2 Cali graded stakes I could see him being the chalk.... I dont get the price appeal either. I dont get this horse at all, what was his excuse 2 back when he got away with 49.4-1.15-2.05.2 and was basicley destroyed late?

Most likely Sudden War will end up being the favorite. I take my chances with Expansion.

booner
04-22-2010, 01:17 PM
I don't like Tiger's Rock, but I do like Expansion. He will be in my play somewhere.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 01:18 PM
Was Expansion a private purchase? Surprised by the trainer change a few back.

booner
04-22-2010, 01:24 PM
Good question. Wonder who would know?

Gaining Ground
04-22-2010, 01:30 PM
Was Expansion a private purchase? Surprised by the trainer change a few back.

just a trainer change. the west's cut ties with mclaughlin and chad brown got some of the horses.

hockey2315
04-22-2010, 01:31 PM
Not a private purchase. . . They have a lot of horses w/ Brown - not sure if they have any more w/ KMc.

randallscott35
04-22-2010, 01:33 PM
just a trainer change. the west's cut ties with mclaughlin and chad brown got some of the horses.

Thank you

MisterB
04-22-2010, 03:04 PM
Still waiting for an answer.

MCK had over 100 horses, and was making room for more of the shieks flesh. West didn't sever ties, this was MCK's decision.

Gaining Ground
04-22-2010, 03:39 PM
MCK had over 100 horses, and was making room for more of the shieks flesh. West didn't sever ties, this was MCK's decision.

that isnt the way i heard it went down, but it doesnt really matter

randallscott35
04-23-2010, 05:10 PM
Nice run by the other Musket man and good ole Brass Hat always gives his all. The 2 went, but the 3 had nothing anyway. Quite an early move by Pick 6 in there.

philcski
04-23-2010, 07:37 PM
Nice run by the other Musket man and good ole Brass Hat always gives his all. The 2 went, but the 3 had nothing anyway. Quite an early move by Pick 6 in there.

Pick Six is the definition of a hanger. I'm done with that rat.

You could argue that Musketier probably should have gone favored in there (or close to it) yet gets sent off at 7-1... which again shows the value of >=12 horse fields.

booner
04-23-2010, 09:11 PM
Same here. The big move on the backstretch came 1/2 mile too early.

ninetoone
04-25-2010, 07:52 PM
Brass Hat is the man! Love him...game 2nd.