10/24 (BC/Friday): F&M Sprint; F&M Turf (Final)

[Kasept]

3rd (12:35) Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Sprint

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Magnificience Flores D R 123 L
2 Indyanne Albarado R J 120 L
3 Intangaroo Quinonez A 123 L
4 Lady Sprinter Douglas R R 123 L
5 Indian Blessing Velazquez J R 120 L
6 Zaftig Bejarano R 120 L
7 Dream Rush Desormeaux K J 123 L
8 Tiz Elemental Rosario J 123 L
9 Dearest Trickski Smith M E 123 L
10 Miraculous Miss Dominguez R 123 L
11 Jazzy (ARG) Garcia Alan 123 L
12 Ventura Gomez G K 123 L
13 Tizzy's Tune Solis A 123 L
14 La Tee Court J K 123 L



6th (2:35) Emirates Airlines Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 Sealy Hill Husbands P 123 L
2 Vacare Valdivia J Jr 123 L
3 Forever Together Leparoux J R 123 L
4 Visit (GB) Moore R L 118
5 Wait a While Velazquez J R 123 L
6 Dynaforce Garcia Alan 123 L
7 Mauralakana (FR) Desormeaux K J 123 L
8 Halfway To Heaven (IRE) Murtagh J P 118
9 Folk Opera (IRE) Dettori L 123 L
10 Pure Clan Prado E S 118 L

[zippyneedsawin]

Mistical Plan
Dearest Trickski
Intangaroo
Miss Macy Sue
Indian Blessing
Miraculous Miss
Wild Gams
Indyanne
Zaftig
Akronism
Any Limit
Dream Rush
Graeme Six
Lady Sprinter
Sugar Swirl
Tiz Elemental
Porte Bonheur
Rated Fiesty
Vote Early
Elope
Magnificience
Coco Belle
Tizzy's Tune
Sweet Hope
Ventura

Synthetic or not, this could be a really good race.

[brockguy]

Lush Lashes would make things very interesting..

Folk Opera will be the typical suckers bet if it is quick ground..

[Alan07]

Black Mamba heading to Las Palmas

[Round Pen]

There is 13 entered in the F&M Turf so they all get in

[Betsy]

I think Lady Marian is coming as well for the Fillies/Mares turf.......

[CSC]

The Aga Khan's Katirya (not sure of spelling) would also be interesting; although I haven't seen her name mentioned anywhere.

[Kasept]

I think Lady Marian is coming as well for the Fillies/Mares turf.......
She isn't...

[Kasept]

The Aga Khan's Katirya (not sure of spelling) would also be interesting; although I haven't seen her name mentioned anywhere.
Not coming..

[CSC]

Not coming..

Thnx for informing Steve~ I guess the value European horse will be Juddmonte's "Visit" then.

Post edit-The broodmare of Visit is a full sister to super producer Hasili if I remember reading correctly somewhere.

[Handicappy]

Filly & Mare Sprint

Dream Rush – Phipps
Lady Sprinter – Reviriego
Magnificience – Headley
Tizzy’s Tune - McAnally
Indian Blessing – Baffert
Intagaroo – Sherlock
Zaftig – J. Jerkens
Ventura – Frankel
Jazzy – Hennig
Dearest Trickski – Sadler
Indyanne - Gilchrest
Miraculous Miss – Klesaris
Tiz Elemental – Gaines
Psalm - O'Brien
La Tee - Glatt



F&M Turf

Wait a While – Pletcher
Mauralakana – Clement
Dynaforce – Mott
Forever Together – Sheppard
Pure Clan – Holthus
Communique – Arnold
Visit – Stoute
Folk Opera – bin Suroor
Vacare – Clement
Sealy Hill – Casse
Halfway to Heaven – O’Brien

With the turf, I've been burned so often that I am considering betting anyone trained by O'Brien or other shippers from Europe. I won't cuz I still have that I idea I can get it right and it is so much more satisfying when I do. But ...:zz:

[Betsy]

She isn't...
Ugh, you're kidding - where'd you see this?

[Kasept]

Ugh, you're kidding - where'd you see this?
On the above fields..

[Betsy]

On the above fields..


Oh duh.....I obviously wasn't thinking. What a bummer - thanks, though!

[Kasept]

Odds from DRF (graded entries), Ladbrookes & William Hill... Courtesy of CristBlog..

Filly & Mare Sprint (Horse DRF-LAD-HILL)

Dearest Trickski 12 16 9
Dream Rush 20 25 20
Indian Blessing 2 1.5 2.2
Indyanne 12 14 12
Intangaroo 6 6 5.5
Jazzy (ARG) 30
La Tee 30 50 40
Lady Sprinter 30 8 16
Magnificience 15 25 20
Miraculous Miss 20 25 16
Psalm (IRE) 30 25 16
Tiz Elemental 15 25 20
Tizzy's Tune 15 33 22
Ventura 4 8
Zaftig 8 8 6

[Kasept]

Odds from DRF (graded entries), Ladbrookes & William Hill... Courtesy of CristBlog..

Filly & Mare Turf (Horse DRF-LAD-HILL)

Communique 20 25 16
Dynaforce 8 8 6
Folk Opera (IRE) 10 8 11
Forever Together 4 6 5
Goldikova (IRE) 2.5 3
Halfway To Heaven (IRE) 3 4 4.5
Mauralakana (FR) 5 7 5
Precious Kitten 6
Pure Clan 15 8 12
Sealy Hill 20 33 33
Vacare 15 16 14
Visit (GB) 30 10 12
Wait a While 3.5 4 5

[CSC]

I'll be surprised if Goldikova runs in the Filly & Mare, it's probably farther than what she wants to go.

[-BT-]

Odds from DRF (graded entries), Ladbrookes & William Hill... Courtesy of CristBlog..

Filly & Mare Sprint (Horse DRF-LAD-HILL)

Dearest Trickski 12 16 9
Dream Rush 20 25 20
Indian Blessing 2 1.5 2.2
Indyanne 12 14 12
Intangaroo 6 6 5.5
Jazzy (ARG) 30
La Tee 30 50 40
Lady Sprinter 30 8 16
Magnificience 15 25 20
Miraculous Miss 20 25 16
Psalm (IRE) 30 25 16
Tiz Elemental 15 25 20
Tizzy's Tune 15 33 22
Ventura 4 8
Zaftig 8 8 6


wow, thought those would be switched...... i like the way this turning out thus far

-bt-

[-BT-]

Odds from DRF (graded entries), Ladbrookes & William Hill... Courtesy of CristBlog..

Filly & Mare Turf (Horse DRF-LAD-HILL)

Communique 20 25 16
Dynaforce 8 8 6
Folk Opera (IRE) 10 8 11
Forever Together 4 6 5
Goldikova (IRE) 2.5 3
Halfway To Heaven (IRE) 3 4 4.5
Mauralakana (FR) 5 7 5
Precious Kitten 6
Pure Clan 15 8 12
Sealy Hill 20 33 33
Vacare 15 16 14
Visit (GB) 30 10 12
Wait a While 3.5 4 5

first time i've seen a horse's race comments as "DQ'd drug positive"

I would LOVE to see Goldikova run against these, its hard to knock anything on her resume, especially since she's coming DOWN in class after beating older males last out in a G1.........:eek:

-bt-

[Antitrust32]

anyone feel that Pure Clan has a shot?

[blackthroatedwind]

anyone feel that Pure Clan has a shot?

She's definitely in the mix for last.

[CSC]

She's definitely in the mix for last.

With the setup Pure Clan most likely will get, she will suck up for second to last.

[Antitrust32]

That's a pretty loaded field. She's a nice filly, but I think she's going to find these too good for her.


Yeah it is a nice, deep field. I wont be betting the BC but I'll root for Holthus to win one!

[Kasept]

Filly & Mare Sprint

1. Magnificience - Flores
2. Indyanne - Albarado
3. Intangaroo - Quinonez
4. Ladt Sprinter - Douglas
5. Indian Blessing - J. Velasquez
6. Zaftig - Bejarano
7. Dream Rush - K. Desormeaux
8. Tiz Eemental - Rosario
9. Dearest Trickski - Smith
10. Miraculous Miss - R. Dominguez
11. Jazzy - A. Garcia
12. Ventura - Gomez
13. Tizzy's Tune - Solis
14. La Tee - Court

[Kasept]

Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Turf (G1)

1. Sealy Hill, Patrick Husbands, 15-to-1;

2. Vacare, Jose Valdivia Jr., 10-to-1;

3. Forever Together, Julien Leparoux;

4. Visit, Ryan Moore, 15-to-1;

5. Wait a While, John Velazquez, 3-to-1;

6. Dynaforce, Alan Garcia, 6-to-1;

7. Mauralakana, Kent Desormeaux, 5-to-1;

8. Halfway to Heaven, Johnny Murtagh, 4-to-1;

9. Folk Opera, Frankie Dettori, 10-to-1;

10. Pure Clan, Edgar Prado, 15-to-1.

[Bobby Fischer]

Whats Up with the layoff for Zaftig after the Acorn??

Filly & Mare Sprint

1. Magnificience - Flores
2. Indyanne - Albarado
3. Intangaroo - Quinonez
4. Ladt Sprinter - Douglas
5. Indian Blessing - J. Velasquez
6. Zaftig - Bejarano
7. Dream Rush - K. Desormeaux
8. Tiz Eemental - Rosario
9. Dearest Trickski - Smith
10. Miraculous Miss - R. Dominguez
11. Jazzy - A. Garcia
12. Ventura - Gomez
13. Tizzy's Tune - Solis
14. La Tee - Court

[Bobby Fischer]

foot bruise

didn't happen in acorn "took a bad step in the afternoon", had a sub 112 wrk couple days ago , hrtv was whining but i thought she did it pretty easily and wasn't asked much at the finish

[cowgirlintexas]

What a great race! I've been on Magnificience's bandwagon since day one.. What an awesome big/fast mare she is! I really hope she wins this one... :)

[Kasept]

3rd (12:35) Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Sprint

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Magnificience Flores D R 123 L
2 Indyanne Albarado R J 120 L
3 Intangaroo Quinonez A 123 L
4 Lady Sprinter Douglas R R 123 L
5 Indian Blessing Velazquez J R 120 L
6 Zaftig Bejarano R 120 L
7 Dream Rush Desormeaux K J 123 L
8 Tiz Elemental Rosario J 123 L
9 Dearest Trickski Smith M E 123 L
10 Miraculous Miss Dominguez R 123 L
11 Jazzy (ARG) Garcia Alan 123 L
12 Ventura Gomez G K 123 L
13 Tizzy's Tune Solis A 123 L
14 La Tee Court J K 123 L



6th (2:35) Emirates Airlines Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 Sealy Hill Husbands P 123 L
2 Vacare Valdivia J Jr 123 L
3 Forever Together Leparoux J R 123 L
4 Visit (GB) Moore R L 118
5 Wait a While Velazquez J R 123 L
6 Dynaforce Garcia Alan 123 L
7 Mauralakana (FR) Desormeaux K J 123 L
8 Halfway To Heaven (IRE) Murtagh J P 118
9 Folk Opera (IRE) Dettori L 123 L
10 Pure Clan Prado E S 118 L

[-BT-]

She's going to need to be much better than she has been since coming back from injury. I like Ventura a lot in the race.


what he said..... 8-1 at william hill sounds like a fat price as well, hope it can stay there



-bt-

[SniperSB23]

anyone feel that Pure Clan has a shot?

For last or second to last?

[CSC]

I think Dyaforce may be a little bit of a dangerous overlay in here, she had a soft lead in her last however she doesn't need the lead, she's a very consistent mare. Looks like Folk Opera will set the pace with P. kitten out of this race with Halfway to Heaven and Wait A While pressing.

[Alan07]

Indyanne 90 percent out of F&M Sprint

[Scav]

Indyanne out of F&M Sprint

damn it

[-BT-]

damn it


please tell me you're upset b/c you wanted to toss her?

-bt-

[Mike]

I'll be watching to see in what odds range Pure Clan will be. She's 4-5 on grass with an excuse for the loss. Wait A While's 3-1 and Pure Clan is dismissed at double digits?

[letswastemoney]

Dream Rush and Dearest Tricksi both only know one way to run.......should be interesting first quarter

[hrfan]

The more i look at the turf the more i think it will come down to these 2
6 Dynaforce Garcia Alan 123 L
7 Mauralakana (FR) Desormeaux K J 123 L

i will be confident being alive to them in pick 3 and 4

[hrfan]

Dream Rush and Dearest Tricksi both only know one way to run.......should be interesting first quarter
Why does no one on here seem to like Indian Blessing, at around 2-1 possibly, she will get a dream trip in this race, but ppl love Zenyatta vs a much harder group at 2-5 ? ?

[letswastemoney]

Why does no one on here seem to like Indian Blessing, at around 2-1 possibly, she will get a dream trip in this race, but ppl love Zenyatta vs a much harder group at 2-5 ? ?She might not like synthetics as much? She's been racing on dirt for most of the year. It's hard to tell if this surface will make a few lengths difference.

[hrfan]

She might not like synthetics as much? She's been racing on dirt for most of the year. It's hard to tell if this surface will make a few lengths difference.
I think she clearly does, won over it earlier in the year with a decent beyer off of a latoff, working great over it, and should get the best trip of all at a decent price for her.

[cakes44]

Indyanne 90 percent out of F&M Sprint

She got the post 2 "fever."

[-BT-]

I think she clearly does, won over it earlier in the year with a decent beyer off of a latoff, working great over it, and should get the best trip of all at a decent price for her.


2-1 on her is shaky, a lot of questions surround her. This isn't a 4 horse field of 3YO's, she's gonna get bumped around and at that ML price i'm looking elsewhere for value, b/c there is a lot of value in this race

-bt-

[Pedigree Ann]

Why does no one on here seem to like Indian Blessing, at around 2-1 possibly, she will get a dream trip in this race, but ppl love Zenyatta vs a much harder group at 2-5 ? ?

She is this year's version of Dream Rush - has dominated the 3yo fillies sprinting but hasn't met the really good older sprinters (that lot at Belmont were not much, all 3 of them). But because she was 2yo champion and Baffert is talking her up, she is getting a lot of press. She may be on a par with the older female sprinters, but she hasn't proven it yet and her price will be too low, taking that into account.

Zenyatta, on the other hand, has beaten last year's champion Ginger Punch (who has beaten nearly everything else on the East Coast), has beaten Hystericalady (as has Ginger Punch). IMHO, Hystericalady has had a nice career and made a good bit of money by showing up where the heavy-weights aren't running. Carriage Trail is a wildcard, since she hadn't been running in the top division until the Spinster.

Speaking of which..., There was an article in the Lexington paper a couple of days before the Spinster about Unbridled Belle. It turns out that two races previously she had flipped in the paddock and run below par. Then the next time she went to the paddock for a race, she started shaking like a leaf, came a distant third in a race that was right up her alley. They were hoping that if she kept coming to the paddock and DIDN'T get hurt again, she would settle down and run her race, but she was not a happy camper on Spinster day and finished down the track (I got off her - Carriage Trail was the next best). I saw none of this talked about in the industry press and wonder if it comes as news to you folks. It wasn't as if they were making a secret of it.

[hockey2315]

They talked about Undbridled Belle flipping in the paddock during the coverage of that race. I'm still not sure why she gets any attention or respect.

Regarding Indian Blessing - she is superior to any older female sprinter. There aren't really (m)any good ones anyways. But, of course, it comes down to surface. She barely held off Golden Doc A (granted, that was a while ago, on a different surface, etc.) in her one synthetic start. If she takes to the surface and runs her race, the only horse that can really beat her is Zaftig because we're still not sure how good Zaftig is or how she'll like the Pro-Ride. But at 2-1 or less she's worth playing against. I'll be using Ventura and Zaftig in my PK3s. . . If slow-as-molasses Intangaroo wins I give up. . .

[Pedigree Ann]

Regarding Indian Blessing - she is superior to any older female sprinter. .

My request arises from respectful curiosity; on what do you base this statement? I am always interested in how other, probably better, handicappers make these judgments.

[hockey2315]

My request arises from respectful curiosity; on what do you base this statement? I am always interested in how other, probably better, handicappers make these judgments.

Name one who is even close to being on her level. She's MUCH faster than all of them. . .

[AeWingnut]

From the Racing Post

Lady Sprinter

"Argentina´s Champion sprinter, this filly has never been headed while winning all eight of her starts on dirt in very fast time. However, she´s never run beyond five furlongs or gone around a turn. And the only time she ran on anything but dirt she lost her action"

I wonder if she will make sure Dream Rush has to work for the lead.

[hrfan]

She clearly does? Have you seen her races on dirt vs. synthetics? I think she's off the board.
your pick is off the board

[hrfan]

She is this year's version of Dream Rush - has dominated the 3yo fillies sprinting but hasn't met the really good older sprinters (that lot at Belmont were not much, all 3 of them). But because she was 2yo champion and Baffert is talking her up, she is getting a lot of press. She may be on a par with the older female sprinters, but she hasn't proven it yet and her price will be too low, taking that into account.

Zenyatta, on the other hand, has beaten last year's champion Ginger Punch (who has beaten nearly everything else on the East Coast), has beaten Hystericalady (as has Ginger Punch). IMHO, Hystericalady has had a nice career and made a good bit of money by showing up where the heavy-weights aren't running. Carriage Trail is a wildcard, since she hadn't been running in the top division until the Spinster.

Speaking of which..., There was an article in the Lexington paper a couple of days before the Spinster about Unbridled Belle. It turns out that two races previously she had flipped in the paddock and run below par. Then the next time she went to the paddock for a race, she started shaking like a leaf, came a distant third in a race that was right up her alley. They were hoping that if she kept coming to the paddock and DIDN'T get hurt again, she would settle down and run her race, but she was not a happy camper on Spinster day and finished down the track (I got off her - Carriage Trail was the next best). I saw none of this talked about in the industry press and wonder if it comes as news to you folks. It wasn't as if they were making a secret of it.
THIS IS A JOKE, DREAM RUSH
??????

[hrfan]

She clearly does? Have you seen her races on dirt vs. synthetics? I think she's off the board.
do you mean her 1 race, first as a 3 yr old, off a layoff, where she earned a 92 beyer ?

[Pedigree Ann]

THIS IS A JOKE, DREAM RUSH
??????

At 3, Indian Blessing has won the Test and Prioress in New York, plus the Santa Ynez at Santa Anita in the winter, these being her sprint wins vs. her age group.

At 3 in 2007, Dream Rush won the Test and Prioress AND the Nassau County in New York, plus the Old Hat at Gulfstream in the winter, these being her sprint wins vs. her age group.

These are rather similar profiles, if you ask me.

[ateamstupid]

At 3, Indian Blessing has won the Test and Prioress in New York, plus the Santa Ynez at Santa Anita in the winter, these being her sprint wins vs. her age group.

At 3 in 2007, Dream Rush won the Test and Prioress AND the Nassau County in New York, plus the Old Hat at Gulfstream in the winter, these being her sprint wins vs. her age group.

These are rather similar profiles, if you ask me.

Good job. You've proved that Indian Blessing and Dream Rush have similar profiles if you totally cherry pick which races you mention.

[the_fat_man]

Good job. You've proved that Indian Blessing and Dream Rush have similar profiles if you totally cherry pick which races you mention.


However, she's actually commenting BEFORE the race. Which is (novel and) a good thing.

[Pedigree Ann]

Good job. You've proved that Indian Blessing and Dream Rush have similar profiles if you totally cherry pick which races you mention.

I only mentioned the sprint races that they ran in versus their fellow 3yos to show that each was dominant in that division. I ignored the 8f+ races since they are irrelavent to the discussion. I tried to show that Dream Rush had dominated the 3yo filly sprinters last year as thoroughly as Indian Blessing has this year. DR went off at 3/1 in the BC FM Sprint and finished fifth, beaten by some older mares that most of us would think of as less than stellar (Maryfield, Miraculous Miss). Indian Blessing beat some overnight-type older mares in New York, which gives us no idea whether she is on a par with the top older mares in the division. She may well be; it's just that we have to take it on faith that she is if we take a low price on her.

[hockey2315]

Who are the top older mare sprinters this year?

[Pedigree Ann]

Who are the top older mare sprinters this year?

I can't stay up any longer to argue with you. Go to the PPs and see who have won and placed in the G1s and G2s.

[SniperSB23]

Dream Rush and Dearest Tricksi both only know one way to run.......should be interesting first quarter

Take a second look at Lady Sprinter. "Led throughout" in every win. You can toss all three of them immediately as pace casualties.

[King Glorious]

Gonna hope IB can run on this junk and go with her on top of Ventura with Tiz Elemental third, Zaftig fourth.

Going with Mauralakana over Halfway to Heaven with Wait a While third and Pure Clan fourth.

[CSC]

Gonna hope IB can run on this junk and go with her on top of Ventura with Tiz Elemental third, Zaftig fourth.

Going with Mauralakana over Halfway to Heaven with Wait a While third and Pure Clan fourth.

Can't argue that, I can see any one of 6 can winning this. Dynaforce for me as the value.

[Cannon Shell]

Indian Blessing despite PG1985. Too good and will get the ideal trip. The older filly sprinters suck and I dont think that Ventura will stay close enough. Zaftig is an owners decision to run. Take whatever you want from that.

I have no idea what to do with the turf race

[hrfan]

yea Indian had no business being so close to 44 half

[Danzig]

your pick is off the board



oooops!

[Cannon Shell]

Indian Blessing despite PG1985. Too good and will get the ideal trip. The older filly sprinters suck and I dont think that Ventura will stay close enough. Zaftig is an owners decision to run. Take whatever you want from that.

I have no idea what to do with the turf race
ventura didnt stay close enough and still blew em away. tremendous run

[Cannon Shell]

Happy to see Mr. Sheppard win. Great guy.

[philcski]

Happy to see Mr. Sheppard win. Great guy.

Me too... Love that filly. Best turf filly in the country, end of story, trained beautifully by an absolutely underrated trainer.


We gotta get you one of these BC things.

[the_fat_man]

Nice to see the DIRT POSTER GIRL, Indian Blessing, get her ass handed to her.

She gets a PERFECT SETUP and still gets run like like she's pregnant.

No wonder she excels on DIRT. :rolleyes:

can't handle a fair track (even one playing to speed).

SHE
WASN'T
FAST
ENOUGH

Ironically, I believe I read on this forum that Ventura was gutless.

[philcski]

I'm here to eat my crow about Forever Together. She ran huge. Hope you killed it.

Thanks, I did kill it... Sealy Hill helped that a lot though. Big ups to her, who ran huge as well from WAYYYY back early.

[philcski]

Nice to see the DIRT POSTER GIRL, Indian Blessing, get her ass handed to her.

She gets a PERFECT SETUP and still gets run like like she's pregnant.

No wonder she excels on DIRT. :rolleyes:

can't handle a fair track (even one playing to speed).

SHE
WASN'T
FAST
ENOUGH

Ironically, I believe I read on this forum that Ventura was gutless.

Seriously??? Indian Blessing ran big. Not sure why you're on here killing her for running 2nd to a spectacular performance, the three best fillies (all 3yo's) ran 1-2-3 and the rest of the field was dusted. She probably ran a 108 Beyer, how is that running like she's prenant?!?

[hrfan]

[QUOTE=the_fat_man]Nice to see the DIRT POSTER GIRL, Indian Blessing, get her ass handed to her.

She gets a PERFECT SETUP and still gets run like like she's pregnant.

No wonder she excels on DIRT. :rolleyes:

can't handle a fair track (even one playing to speed).

SHE
WASN'T
FAST
ENOUGH

Ironically, I believe I read on this forum that Ventura was gutless.[/QUOTE
ppl talk about some of my posts, what the **** is this **** ??? she did all the dirty work through a 44 half, and was well clear for second, with music note's performance and PROUd spells last she still might be 3 yr old filly champ

[King Glorious]

Seriously??? Indian Blessing ran big. Not sure why you're on here killing her for running 2nd to a spectacular performance, the three best fillies (all 3yo's) ran 1-2-3 and the rest of the field was dusted. She probably ran a 108 Beyer, how is that running like she's prenant?!?

Ventura is not a 3yo.

[Indian Charlie]

Nice to see the DIRT POSTER GIRL, Indian Blessing, get her ass handed to her.

She gets a PERFECT SETUP and still gets run like like she's pregnant.

No wonder she excels on DIRT. :rolleyes:

can't handle a fair track (even one playing to speed).

SHE
WASN'T
FAST
ENOUGH

Ironically, I believe I read on this forum that Ventura was gutless.

The only reason Ventura could outgame IB to a four length win was because HR touted the hell out of IB. That's like adding 45 pounds to the saddle.

[Cannon Shell]

The only reason Ventura could outgame IB to a four length win was because HR touted the hell out of IB. That's like adding 45 pounds to the saddle.
I added at least 5, of course i thought she'd sit 3rd or 4th too...

[philcski]

Ventura is not a 3yo.

You are correct, my error. I thought she was 3.

[hrfan]

I get the joke and all, but you were very against Ventura as I recall. Not so gutless huh?
man nice call and all, but it is a synthetic surface, Blessing did do all the dirty work, and still ran huge..... i mean show some class... on dirt at any distance who is better of these 2 ? Even on this surface i would still take blessing, JV should have took her back a bit....

[cowgirlintexas]

Show some class? First, you moron, I was kind of defending you in my post. Second, I was very against Forever Together all week and made it a point to tell two different people that they were right and I was way wrong. So spare me the show some class stuff. Indian Charlie said he would be shocked to see Ventura win and called her gutless. That's why I brought it up.

I understand it's a synthetic surface. It's why I liked Ventura. The fact you still think IB is better after she was demolished is why you are you. Indian Blessing is definitely a better dirt horse and Frankel said he wouldn't have entered Ventura on the dirt. But, the race wasn't on dirt. Ventura is a better horse on synthetic and turf. you ca try and excuse it all you want. but, for someone who can't say enough, you are rarely, if ever right. So, show some humility and shut up already....

Applause :tro:

[Indian Charlie]

I get the joke and all, but you were very against Ventura as I recall. Not so gutless huh?

i havent watched any of the bc races yet, so no comment.

however, go watch how she tanked the race against diamond diva. it was pathetic