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Kasept
03-16-2008, 10:46 PM
The Derby Trail weekend was wild as Juvenile Champion War Pass failed to perform at Tampa Bay; Z Fortune was shown up as a mediocrity at Oaklawn; and the three speedballs all passed the San Felipe two turn test at Santa Anita. More on the 3 year old scene seperately... Meanwhile another lucrative and attractive sextet lures at Arcadia in advance of the Big A's skien, just when you think you've got 4 days to prepare for a $1,000,000 P6 pool Wednesday! Hope you did well this weekend!


SANTA ANITA


3rd: ALW/N$MY, 4+, 9f-T (P6, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #2 Chattahoochee War 3-1 WON
Next Best: #4 Heroi Do Bafra 5-2 2nd
Must Use: #3 Boboman 8-5


4th: MDN CLM, F&M-4+, 7f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #6 GLORIA JEANNE 8-5 2nd
Next Best: #4 Judge in the West 3-1 3rd
Best Value: #3 Silver Chai 10-1 4th


5th: CLM, 4yo-F, 1m-T (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #6 Foxy Games 9-2 4th
Best Value: #9 Forest Miss 5-1 5th
Next Best: #7 Just Knock 3-1 8th
Exotics Add: #5 Bootleg Annie 5-1 WON


6th: MDN CLM, 4+, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Carona Time 7-2 2nd
Best Value: #6 Bodacat 6-1 3rd
Next Best: #5 El Falcon 2-1 WON
Exotics Add: #7 Cool Commander 9-2 7th


7th: 14th Irish O'Brien, F&M-4+, 6.5f-DHT (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 Rockella 3-1 5th
Best Value: #10 Comedy Girl 8-1 3rd
Next Best: #3 Udriga 4-1 10th
Exotics Add: #6 Bachelorette One 9-2 4th


8th: MSW, 3yo-F, 7f (Super High 5)

Most Likely: #4 Rate of Exchange 5-2 2nd
Best Value: #2 Lovely Cool 15-1 8th
Next Best: #5 Earle's First Girl 8-1 7th
Exotics Add: #1 SCR
High 5 Adds: #11 Masterful Miss 4-1 5TH; #9 Puff Maddie 10-1 WON


<$300/<$150 P6 Plays:

3: 2-3-4
4: 6
5: 6-9
6: 1-5-6
7: 5-10
8: 2-4 (1-5)

(3)x(1)x(2)x(3)x(2)x(2/4) = 72/144 x $2 = $144/$288


Good luck!
Steve

dylbert
03-16-2008, 11:40 PM
3: 3-5-6
4: 6
5: 5-6-9
6: 2-5
7: 2-3-9
8: 2-4-11

$324 play

Good Luck to All!

hoovesupsideyourhead
03-17-2008, 03:56 AM
3] 3
4] 1/3/6
5] 4/7/8
6] 5
7}5/8
8] 2/5/7/11

WarranT
03-17-2008, 01:04 PM
race 3 #4 Heroi Do Bafra

# Chased repeat winner Spring at Last and talented Sunriver in last two races
# Gets added furlong after closing 4 wide
# Grade 1 winner in Brazil
# In exacta in 7-of-15 on lawn

tiggerv
03-17-2008, 03:28 PM
3: 2,3,4
4: 6
5: 5,6,9
6: 1,5,6
7: 3,5
8: 4,5,7,11

Good luck

TitanSooner
03-17-2008, 03:48 PM
2,3,4,5
6
5,6,7
1,5
3,5,7
11

$144
Good Luck

Scav
03-17-2008, 03:50 PM
Should be interesting to see what the public does with Just Knock today, I can totally see them unloading on her, and I don't see her hitting the board.

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 04:39 PM
24 and 48. Hah! Garcia has his head up his midget arse.

tiggerv
03-17-2008, 04:40 PM
24 and 48. Hah! Garcia has his head up his midget arse.

He costs me so much money...

hoovesupsideyourhead
03-17-2008, 04:40 PM
8 speed n fade and the works........

tiggerv
03-17-2008, 04:42 PM
Horse will probably never win another race. She got a field with absolutely no other pace and a bunch of jocks who can't read the form.

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 04:42 PM
I'm still hoping for a 25 and 50 in a 6 furlong race out there.

hoovesupsideyourhead
03-17-2008, 04:46 PM
that 6 was a hanger big time .i should have used 8 over the 1..doh:eek:

tiggerv
03-17-2008, 04:48 PM
The 6 definitely hung but I wouldn't put Martin Garcia on a mule at Pleasanton. Why wasn't Rosario on the mount?

hoovesupsideyourhead
03-17-2008, 04:55 PM
5] 4/7/8
6] 5/6/8
7}5/8
8] 2/5/10/11

pick 4

WarranT
03-17-2008, 04:55 PM
all these great handicappers in here

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 05:03 PM
Race 5
tri 5,9/5,7,8,9/5,7,8,9

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 05:10 PM
Oh sh.it!!

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 05:13 PM
what happend..just saw the end...someone breakdown?

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 05:16 PM
I don't know who it was but yeah there was a breakdown. Looked like the 8 came out on them.

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 05:18 PM
Race 5
tri 5,9/5,7,8,9/5,7,8,9

soooooo darn close

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 05:21 PM
Dumbass Blanc went right into the rear of the 8. Probably would've won if he didn't eff up.

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 05:21 PM
Looks like it was just knock from the replay....darn, that was ugly. maybe they clipped heels...I hope that is all it was

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 05:31 PM
Race 6
tri
1,2/1,2,3,6/1,2,3,5,6
$18
ex 1,2/1,2,6

declansharbor
03-17-2008, 05:35 PM
$1 pk 3
6- 1,2,5,6
7- 5,8,10
8- 4,6,9

$3 pk 3
6- 5,6
7- 5,6
8- 4,6

3$ DD Race 7
5,10 w/ 6,9

Race 8
WP on 6,9

Quick way to lose a newly replenished account, but thats what money is made for. Spend alot, make more of it.

best of luck to those playing along!!

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 05:43 PM
nice ride by garcia

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 06:06 PM
Race 7
tri 10/1,4,5/1,4,5
ex 10/1,4,5 1,4,5/10
WP 10

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 06:13 PM
Unbelievable.

Scav
03-17-2008, 06:21 PM
You really got to watch Abrams, when his horse opens up hot and he doesn't open up his mouth, they run well. this horse opens up at like 4/1 and drifts up....

Chantel winning a DOWN THE HILL RACE, it really is priceless

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 06:24 PM
Yeah.

It's a shame that hanging rat bastard couldn't run second for me.

SCUDSBROTHER
03-17-2008, 06:29 PM
Need the 10 in the last (for a double.)You think she will run closer to 1st,or closer to last?

Scav
03-17-2008, 06:30 PM
Need the 10 in the last (for a double.)You think she will run closer to 1st,or closer to last?

Where did you get that pick?

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 06:32 PM
She's got a shot, Scuds.

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 06:33 PM
ex box 6,7,8,10

SCUDSBROTHER
03-17-2008, 06:33 PM
Where did you get that pick?

Hey,she made a lil move last time.Paddy is always looking for a price.I only got $20 invested..$622 IS DECENT REWARD FOR THE RISK.Hooves used her,too.I ain't the only one guilty of pig fishing.

Scav
03-17-2008, 06:35 PM
Hey,she made a lil move last time.Paddy is always looking for a price.I only got $20 invested..$622 IS DECENT REWARD FOR THE RISK.Hooves used her,too.I ain't the only one guilty of pig fishing.

good enough, good luck with her.

Coach Pants
03-17-2008, 06:37 PM
Hey,she made a lil move last time.Paddy is always looking for a price.I only got $20 invested..$622 IS DECENT REWARD FOR THE RISK.Hooves used her,too.I ain't the only one guilty of pig fishing.
I took rat city and boxed them.

Scav
03-17-2008, 06:38 PM
at least the jocks have finally FIGURED out that you can't win on the lead here, unless you are Saul Arias and Martin Garcia has a horse in the race.....

SCUDSBROTHER
03-17-2008, 06:45 PM
Lazy bitch..Got a perfect set-up,and gets a lazy 3rd...I took 15 seconds to cheer up..CARRYOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dylbert
03-17-2008, 06:46 PM
$700,000 plus carryover for Thursday!!! Snow day in Louisiana... LOL.

Scav
03-17-2008, 06:51 PM
Lazy bitch..Got a perfect set-up,and gets a lazy 3rd...I took 15 seconds to cheer up..CARRYOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the 4 is officially garbage, people still smitten over his debut when he went 9w. if that horse couldn't fly by into those fractions, on this track, hello maiden 32k for him....

SCUDSBROTHER
03-17-2008, 06:55 PM
And the 4 is officially garbage, people still smitten over his debut when he went 9w. He that horse couldn't fly by into those fractions, on this track, hello maiden 32k for him....

4 AND THE 11 ARE BOTH $ INCINERATORS......What the double pay? Atleast she is by the sire of Yankee Bravo.

docicu3
03-17-2008, 07:02 PM
4 AND THE 11 ARE BOTH $ INCINERATORS......What the double pay? Atleast she is by the sire of Yankee Bravo.


Double paid $246,.....

but what a crappy low P4 with winners paying 11-5-19 and $24 dollars just barely paying 2100 on a buck ......very strange!!

The 10 in the 7th was the death of me..

Scav
03-17-2008, 07:05 PM
Scuds, you gotta look at Thursday's card, there are money burners galore.

It very well might carry into Friday with the races they put in this sequence

Scav
03-17-2008, 07:06 PM
The 4th, only two horses have hit the board in their LAST TWO STARTS... :)

SCUDSBROTHER
03-17-2008, 07:31 PM
Scuds, you gotta look at Thursday's card, there are money burners galore.

It very well might carry into Friday with the races they put in this sequence
Can't carry until Friday.Some of the tickets gunna be massive.Be over 4 mil in the pool.

SCUDSBROTHER
03-17-2008, 07:35 PM
omg..look at the 4th race Thursday..People gunna have thousands invested on what those cheap hos are willing to do?

SCUDSBROTHER
03-17-2008, 07:46 PM
1,4,8 in that 4th race.

Scav
03-17-2008, 07:48 PM
1,4,8 in that 4th race.

it will take a 10k ticket to hit it, otherwise, it is carrying...

SCUDSBROTHER
03-17-2008, 08:11 PM
They got that crazy LETHAL HEAT in the 7th.Broke from 1 hole down the hill,and was sooooooooo full of run the whole way....I'll single her....She a superwoman.

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 08:13 PM
Abby cat is logical, but pirates charm may run away and stagger home

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 08:28 PM
wow....it is a tough card....some ugly racing. I might just go on and capp fridays card and skip thursday

Scav
03-17-2008, 08:30 PM
wow....it is a tough card....some ugly racing. I might just go on and capp fridays card and skip thursday

Exactly root, pray for a monster carryover. You can't be comfortable at all....might be the toughest card I have seen there in a while, and not becuase of quality, but because of how bad it is.....

Scav
03-17-2008, 08:33 PM
Is that JULIO garcia out in cali for Ward's horse in the 1st?

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 08:37 PM
races 1,4,and5 - who in hell is he?

Scav
03-17-2008, 08:40 PM
races 1,4,and5 - who in hell is he?

If it is Julio Garcia, he rides Calder, and most likely there with Ward.

I fully expect him to win that first race if it is him

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 08:43 PM
i mean really - where would you come up with a single? Possbily the last race with either the 1 or the 3??

Scav
03-17-2008, 08:43 PM
Now here is the question for ya, would you rather have the 2f baby race or the 4th race in the P6 sequence? Me, I would take the baby race, at least you know most of them are healthy and won't be done after this race.

Scav
03-17-2008, 08:44 PM
i mean really - where would you come up with a single? Possbily the last race with either the 1 or the 3??

You would single Danny Templeton? oh my...

Scav
03-17-2008, 08:47 PM
The only horse I would consider singling would be Miss Fremont, and only based on the fact that there is alot of speed in there and she should get a great trip. Wickednwackyingrid might run huge also, I have always liked playing horses going from a route to down the hill...

Rootdog1
03-17-2008, 09:06 PM
that race is not down the hill...it is 1M. And yes I would single Dannyboy

Scav
03-17-2008, 09:10 PM
that race is not down the hill...it is 1M. And yes I would single Dannyboy

I confused it with the other, she is more obvious then now to me. My first thought was why are going back down the hill with her, who know what I was thinking. In shock how bad the card is probably.

Scav
03-17-2008, 09:27 PM
this is how I would play it

3: 3
4: 1,4,7,8
5: 1,4,8
6: 1,2,8
7: 3,10
8: 1,5

You are right about Danny Boy, that race is so bad, and the horses that show anything arguable, it isn't on the poly. Ringmaster might be a decent include, for when the race falls apart. On a grade scale, it is probably a D+, and the only reason it gets the '+' is because of the size of the pool

Scav
03-19-2008, 09:40 AM
Root, I started thinking about it, and if you are the aggressive type, I can see people singling Abbey Cat in that bad race. There are some BAD BAD horses in this race

1) Comparacion - Off a full year, never hit the board while here
2) Warren's Alohamoon - Off half a year but gets Blanc for comeback, who knows what happened in that Del Mar race
3) Kachina's Dream - Perfect horse for the 10k claimers they like running at Gulfstream, 3rd start off year layoff, shown nothing
4) Inaheartbeat - Off half a year, synthethic races are bad
5) Meg's Operator - Needs to be retired
6) Pirate's Charm - Victor Navarro and hasn't been under 29/1 in his last 6 starts
7) Kentucky Waltz - off a 1/3 of a year, hasn't shown much
8) Abbey Cat - Decent recent start while shortening up, 2nd time in a row sprinting, at least finished prior race, gets some poundage from others, should get the pace

Here are the rest of my thoughts on this

1) This race might be the lowest gross handle for Santa Anita this year, WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD BET THIS RACE?
2) I understand and respect the concept of putting competitive races in the P6 sequence, but this race is a disservice to the bettors IMO

Rootdog1
03-19-2008, 09:53 AM
I do think Abbey makes the most sense..I am just a bit worried about her not showing enough early and leave to much to do late. They took the blinks off last time out. I think there is a chance one of these so called horses could run off and stagger home.

Scav
03-20-2008, 03:06 PM
If it is Julio Garcia, he rides Calder, and most likely there with Ward.

I fully expect him to win that first race if it is him

Julio Garcia gets the rent check :)

tiggerv
03-20-2008, 03:08 PM
Julio Garcia gets the rent check :)

I should have just bet him to win. Tried to get clever and I boxed the 2 Ward horses and the 2 didn't fire.

SCUDSBROTHER
03-20-2008, 07:37 PM
They got that crazy LETHAL HEAT in the 7th.Broke from 1 hole down the hill,and was sooooooooo full of run the whole way....I'll single her....She a superwoman.

SUPERWOMAN!!....Don't mess with her,She is LETHAL.