Tampa Friday: 53k Carryover

[tiggerv]

Race 6
2 Delaware Diamond – exits excellent race with 3 next out winners including Stormin Yank who won going away in allowance company
(Also considering: 10 Follow Orders, 8 Out In The Open)

Race 7
11 Drinkwater - since he drew in I will single
(Also considering: 4 Rahoo, 2 GreyLock)

Race 8
1 Classy And Elusive – caught in speed duel and ended up 2nd to Red Liquor N' Lace last out
6 Sage's Dream – class dropper with past figures that could win and draws better jock
10 Red Liquor N' Lace – won last out in same company closing, should get enough pace to close into
11 First Lady on Tour – class dropper and probable front runner, include at price

Race 9
1 The Works – 19% trainer FTS, 14% Sire FTS, draws Vern Bush?!?
5 Lear's Luv – 6% trainer FTS, 13% Sire FTS, strong workout pattern
6 Whatyouwanttoknow – 20% trainer FTS, 14% Sire FTS, strong workout pattern

Race 10
7 Shipwatch – good connections, strong turf pedigree, stretching out and could wire this field
5 Mandu Genius - adding in a wide open race, should be able to close into these
(Also considering: 9 Seize, 13AE Lucky Leo)

Race 11
11 Last Shake – nearly won last out in same company before fading, slight cut back in distance
12 Hot Shot Brown – class dropper should be good enough to compete here
(Also considering: 3 Win For Gold)

1x1x4x3x2x2 = $96

[Bigsmc]

Race 9
1 The Works – 19% trainer FTS, 14% Sire FTS, draws Vern Bush?!?
3 Stormy Cs – 3% trainer FTS, 5% Sire FTS, bullet work and draws Rosemary
5 Lear's Luv – 6% trainer FTS, 13% Sire FTS, strong workout pattern
6 Whatyouwanttoknow – 20% trainer FTS, 14% Sire FTS, strong workout pattern



Scace using Vern is baffling to me. Her go to guy is Cotto, who ended up on the 5. She has several others she uses, and probably the rest of the room wanting to ride her horses....and she chooses Vern?

[Bigsmc]

First cut at P6 ticket pre-scratch. I am not all that happy with the single in the 10th so I may change it several times tomorrow. I really don't want to invest much more with so many wide open races. Saturday's card looks more beatable if there is another carryover.

Race 6
2 Delaware Diamond – exits excellent race with 3 next out winners including Stormin Yank who won going away in allowance company
(Also considering: 10 Follow Orders, 8 Out In The Open)

Race 7
2 Greylock - 2nd by a neck in same company two back
8 Call My Bluff – year layoff but works good and if right could win going away
(Also considering: 4 Rahoo, 11AE Drinkwater)

Race 8
1 Classy And Elusive – caught in speed duel and ended up 2nd to Red Liquor N' Lace last out
6 Sage's Dream – class dropper with past figures that could win and draws better jock
10 Red Liquor N' Lace – won last out in same company closing, should get enough pace to close into
11 First Lady on Tour – class dropper and probable front runner, include at price

Race 9
1 The Works – 19% trainer FTS, 14% Sire FTS, draws Vern Bush?!?
3 Stormy Cs – 3% trainer FTS, 5% Sire FTS, bullet work and draws Rosemary
5 Lear's Luv – 6% trainer FTS, 13% Sire FTS, strong workout pattern
6 Whatyouwanttoknow – 20% trainer FTS, 14% Sire FTS, strong workout pattern

Race 10
7 Shipwatch – good connections, strong turf pedigree, stretching out and could wire this field
(Also considering: 9 Seize, 13AE Lucky Leo)

Race 11
11 Last Shake – nearly won last out in same company before fading, slight cut back in distance
12 Hot Shot Brown – class dropper should be good enough to compete here
(Also considering: 3 Win For Gold)

1x2x4x4x1x2 = $128

Liz Cedeno is the female Craig Faine....don't do it tigger.

GL today.

[Bigsmc]

I am crunched for time today and will have difficulty getting this in today, so here is my main ticket.

Race 6:
2 - Delaware Diamond
8 - Out in the Open (decent works for MCL 25k, dam won her MSW debut at SAR)

Race 7:
1 - Brickell
2 - Greylock
4 - Rahoo
11 - Drinkwater

Race 8:
8 - Chubby
10 - Red Liquor n' Lace

Race 9:
6 - Whatyouwanttoknow

Race 10:
7 - Shipwatch
8 - Skagway

Race 11:
6 - Wild Nuevent
11 - Last Shake

2 x 4 x 2 x 1 x 2 x 2 = $128

GL

[Bigsmc]

Pick 4

Small Ticket:

8,10/1,5,6/5,7,8,10/6,11 = $48 paid $299.90

Big Ticket:

1,8,10/1,5,6/5,7,8,10/4,6,7,11 = $144 paid $299.90

GL

[2 Dollar Bill]

Race # 10...... 13Ae Lucky Leo

Watch out for this Tampa---DT 31lengths angle !!
Not sure if the form keeps this stat :D

[Rudeboyelvis]

got a ticket formulated, waiting on scratches to see if we get any changes in 7th or 10th...The 9th is a complete an utter crapshoot, and a clear signal that they want this P6 to carryover into Festival Preview Day...Can't say I blame 'em, but there is zero chance of me chasing either the P 4 or the P6 today with real money

[MISTERGEE]

6) 2- delaware diamond

7) 2-greylock
4-rahoo
7-pitchnicholas

8) 1-classy and elusive
10-red liquor n' lace

9) 1-the works
6-whatyouwanttoknow

10) 2-kalita
5-mandu genius
7-shipwatch
9-seize
10-jared'stemper

11) 4-man of men
6-wild nuevent

before scratches look like $240 to me-hope its enough---good luck all

[MISTERGEE]

I am crunched for time today and will have difficulty getting this in today, so here is my main ticket.

Race 6:
2 - Delaware Diamond
8 - Out in the Open (decent works for MCL 25k, dam won her MSW debut at SAR)

Race 7:
1 - Brickell
2 - Greylock
4 - Rahoo
8 - Call My Bluff

Race 8:
8 - Chubby
10 - Red Liquor n' Lace

Race 9:
6 - Whatyouwanttoknow

Race 10:
7 - Shipwatch
8 - Skagway

Race 11:
6 - Wild Nuevent
11 - Last Shake

2 x 4 x 2 x 1 x 2 x 2 = $128

GL
in comparing our tickets we can both hit it---great

[Rudeboyelvis]

2 Delaware Diamond

1 Brickell
11 drinkwater
3 Hots is Hot

1 Classy and elusive
10 Red Liquor and lace

6 Whatyouwanttoknow
1 The Works

5 Mandu Genius
8 Skagway

2 dusst
6 Wild Nuevent
4 Man of Men

1x3x2x2x2x3 = 72 x $2 = 144.00

[tiggerv]

Friday, February 15, 2008

TRACK: Fast
TURF: Firm
Portable rail: at 12 feet

Weather: Sunny – mid 70’s

Pick 6 CARRYOVER: $52,454.34


RACE 1 #3-Scratched(Mynia)
Post Time 12:26

RACE 2
#1-Scratched(Prospectorsbounty)
#7-Scratched(Brave Hero)
Post Time 12:52

RACE 3 #1-Scratched(Queshua)
Post Time 1:20

RACE 4 #3-+1
Post Time 1:49

RACE 5 No Changes
Post Time 2:18

RACE 6 No Changes
Post Time 2:48

RACE 7 (Turf) #4-jockey W. Martinez
#5-Scratched(Solar Surprise)
#8-Scratched(Call My Bluff)
#12-Scratched(Bargain Barry)
#13-Scratched(Sand Slider)
#14-Scratched(Roman Valor)
Post Time 3:14

RACE 8 #3-jockey W. Martinez
Post Time 3:40

RACE 9 #1-+1 #3-Scratched(Stormy C’s)
Post Time 4:10

RACE 10 (Turf) #1-+3
#11-Scratched(Running Super Star)
#12-Scratched(Bo’s Secret Strom)
#13-Scratched(Lucky Leo)
#14-Scratched(Man Made)
Post Time 4:40

RACE 11 #5-Scratched(Chromystic)
#6-+1 #9-jockey H. Villa Gomez
Post Time 5:10

[Coach Pants]

Pick 6
2,10/1/8,10/1,6,7/5/3,7,11
$72

[GPK]

No time to look at the whole sequence, but I did look at the 7th race. My only bet today is #4 Rahoo. Love him on the stretch out.

GL today boys:cool:

[the_fat_man]

No time to look at the whole sequence, but I did look at the 7th race. My only bet today is #4 Rahoo. Love him on the stretch out.

GL today boys:cool:

He'll be a nice barometer for Shipwatch (in the 10th). Of course, Shipwatch was blocked pretty much the length of the stretch last out, while this one had a clear, last move run.

[Coach Pants]

Jamie Ness is the best trainer in the world.

[GPK]

He'll be a nice barometer for Drinkwater (in the 10th). Of course, Drinkwater was blocked pretty much the length of the stretch last out, while this one had a clear, last move run.


I see where Drinkwater drew in for the 7th race and Velez jumps off Rahoo. Velez played a part in my betting Rahoo today, as I think he is one of the top judges of pace in the grass at Tampa. Unfortunately, had to make the bet before I left the house this morning. Willie is certainly a capable subsitute.

[tiggerv]

Jamie Ness is the best trainer in the world.

It's either him or Scott Lake

[the_fat_man]

I see where Drinkwater drew in for the 7th race and Velez jumps off Rahoo. Velez played a part in my betting Rahoo today, as I think he is one of the top judges of pace in the grass at Tampa. Unfortunately, had to make the bet before I left the house this morning. Willie is certainly a capable subsitute.

I think going from ONE to TWO turns on the grass, especially if never attempted previously, is one of the most difficult things for a horse to do. There are all kinds of footwork issues that come into play. This almost never works at BEL, or SAR, for example. In fact, this move is typical of the LOWER IQ trainers.

Yet, it seems to do a bit better on 'smaller' tracks.

To take a horse like Shipwatch, that tried hard last out and never got a chance to run until very late, and then ROUTE him FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER off that effort, is mind boggling to me.

Rahoo, on the other hand, at least has routed once on the turf and didn't have a 'frustrating' trip last out.

[Bigsmc]

Made it back to the computer in time to add Drinkwater and play the ticket.

Pool is over 100k...

GL all.

[Bigsmc]

R6
Oh wow, that hurt. Thought the 8 was going to blow by on the inside and he just hung there.

[tiggerv]

Yuck

[Coach Pants]

I've got to get it in my head that outside speed is an automatic throwout (unless it's Ness)

[Mortimer]

It's painful reading these.

[Bigsmc]

He'll be a nice barometer for Drinkwater (in the 10th). Of course, Drinkwater was blocked pretty much the length of the stretch last out, while this one had a clear, last move run.

I think you mean Shipwatch fat man.

[the_fat_man]

I think you mean Shipwatch fat man.

Let me correct that; thanks.

[GPK]

Anyone help me out with the results of the 7th, please?

[tiggerv]

Anyone help me out with the results of the 7th, please?

The 7 Pitchnicholas at 9-1

[Bigsmc]

7-3-1-6 super

[GPK]

The 7 Pitchnicholas at 9-1

that hanging bastard won??

f*ck me running....

[Bigsmc]

that hanging bastard won??

f*ck me running....

I tossed him, at short prices, in his first two starts. Therefore, I kept to task and tossed him again today.

They are well on their way to a nice carry for Sam Davis day. *edit* and then the short prices roll in.....

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

I tossed him, at short prices, in his first two starts. Therefore, I kept to task and tossed him again today.

They are well on their way to a nice carry for Sam Davis day.
very likley...vern bush puts the wooden spike in it here..lol

[golfer]

I'm not betting this race, just home watching on the computer, but if Skagway has 4 legs, shouldn't he win this easily?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

very likley...vern bush puts the wooden spike in it here..lol
im down on vern wps

[golfer]

I'm not betting this race, just home watching on the computer, but if Skagway has 4 legs, shouldn't he win this easily?

I guess the answer is a definitive NO!:o

[tiggerv]

Only the 11 would ruin a carryover.

[Bigsmc]

Only the 11 pays out in the P6!

[freezy]

what are the payouts of the pick 4 for 1 dollar to the 4,6,11,12

[Bigsmc]

im down on vern wps

Nice Matt.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

thanks biggs.......

[tiggerv]

Vern is going on all my tickets tomorrow if there is a carryover.

Oh and grats hooves

[Bigsmc]

4- 437
6- 287
11- 299
12- 1672

[Bigsmc]

Vern is going on all my tickets tomorrow if there is a carryover.

Oh and grats hooves

12 races tomorrow....gives me the first 6 to build some bankroll....lol

[freezy]

thanks i guess i wont root for the 12 since u don't have him but a much better payout for me if he hits

[IrishofNDMan]

I'm going with the 2 Dusst to win/place

$1 tri

2
with
4,6,11,12
with
4,6,11,12

Trying to get a nice price on top.

GL

[IrishofNDMan]

looks to me like Centeno just out rode her.

[IrishofNDMan]

and if I was the one with that pick 6 ticket I would have been pissing my pants as they came down the stretch.

[Bigsmc]

thanks i guess i wont root for the 12 since u don't have him but a much better payout for me if he hits

Close one freezy, but you still got the $$. Nice job.

[Bigsmc]

and if I was the one with that pick 6 ticket I would have been pissing my pants as they came down the stretch.

I asked my wife as they were coming home, "Can you imagine having that outside horse for 100k?' I would've had a heart attack trying to get him home.

[Rudeboyelvis]

R6
Oh wow, that hurt. Thought the 8 was going to blow by on the inside and he just hung there.

just got in from the track - was on the backside in time for Jeffries to tell me to watch out for the 8 in that race...He works horses out with him and said he should be very live at a fair price...Also told me to watch out for Pitchnicholas in the 7th but couldn't get to the window in time :(

thrilled he got the win as the owner is also in on WS with me :)

[IrishofNDMan]

I asked my wife as they were coming home, "Can you imagine having that outside horse for 100k?' I would've had a heart attack trying to get him home.

would have been even better if the 11 had come down on the 12 a little in the stretch and the inquiry sign started flashing. lol