TAMPA TUESDAY 1/29/08 LATE p4

[docicu3]

I probably should leave this for the real adults who crush this place but the sequence had interest with Chester House potentially being key if successful.



Race 7-10

Ticket for the "Littles" Tony would be proud...

4/6,8,10/3,6/2,8 (small ticket)

Ticket for the outliers

4,10,11/6,8,10,14AE/3,6,8,9/1,2,3,6,8 (big ticket)

Good Luck DT'ers and especially those Kickin and Screaming

[Bigsmc]

I probably should leave this for the real adults who crush this place but the sequence had interest with Chester House potentially being key if successful.



Race 7-10

Ticket for the "Littles" Tony would be proud...

4/6,8,10/3,6/2,8 (small ticket)

Ticket for the outliers

4,10,11/6,8,10,14AE/3,6,8,9/1,2,3,6,8 (big ticket)

Good Luck DT'ers and especially those Kickin and Screaming

Look at the good Doctor weighing in. I am still trying to formulate my ticket into something managable. I think the two turf races are very wide open.

Could be a nice P4 (of course now that I say that, it'll go chalk/chalk/chalk/chalk and pay about $80).

GL Doc.

[GPK]

Thanks for chiming in Doc. Always good to have others playing TBD.

Big Ticket $192 pays $73.90

1,4,7/3,6,8,10/,3,6,8,9/3,4,6,8

Small Ticket $48 Pays $73.90

4,7/6,10/,3,6,8,9/4,6,8

[infield_line]

R1
2 3rd
4 4th
7
10 2nd good call on the 9 Bigs

R2
2
6 2nd
7
8 won ex $6.5

R3
4
5
6 won $5.20
8

r4
1 2nd
2
5
6 won ex $23.10

r5
2 3rd
4
1 2nd winner 5 paid $36.60
9

r6
1 won chalk....ex $11.50
3
5
7 2nd

r7
4 won 9 2nd..dang it I love Partner's Hero but passed for some unknown reason...
6 3rd
7 4th
10

r8
3 2nd
6 3rd
8 4th
10 won lol prices too pitiful to post

r9
1
2
3 2nd
6 won ex $8.40

r10
3 3rd
4 4th
6 won ex $11.30 tri $29.20
8 2nd

Good Luck I/L

[Bigsmc]

Small Ticket:

4/3,5,6,8,10/3,6/1,2,3,4,6,8 = $60 = $73.90

Big Ticket:

1,4/3,5,6,7,8,10/3,6,9/1,2,3,4,6,8 = $216 = $73.90

GL to all playing today.

[Bigsmc]

Spot play in today's first race. A truly bad MCL 8k so I look for anyone making changes or reasons they may improve today because there isn't much to beat here.

9 - Zaam Time has a few factors that make her stand out to me. The first thing I saw was a major jockey change from HQ Rodriguez (one of the worst on the grounds) to Pablo Morales (16% winners at the meet). Second, she breezed a 36 and 3 last friday, MCL 8k horses do not breeze that fast so it tells me she is on go. She's also making her third start off a six month layoff for fans of that angle. Finally, sprinkle a little first time Lasix on top and you have today's value play at 10-1 M/L. Not sure if you'll get 10-1, but Proctor (10) and Scace (7) should take most of the money and help us get some value here.

Good luck.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Race 1
10 Once More 2nd
7 Rainbowis Gold
4 Fresh Call
9 Zaam Time WON $2 ex 59.40

Race 2
8 Dennis's Dream WON
2 Jammin in the Sand
6 Halrose 2nd
10 Williwagcanfly $2 ex box 13.00

Race 3
6 Buddah Past WON
3 Ifyousnoozeyoulose 2nd
5 Down Range
8 Driftwood Run $2 ex box 14.80

Race 4
6 Cape Monerko WON
1 Smooth Wind 2nd
7 Eight Frames
3 Gary's Boomer 3rd $2 ex 46.20 $2 tri 223.00 P3 44.00

Race 5
4 Shoal Water
2 Art of Diplomacy 3rd
3 Scruples In
9 Minnamana

Race 6
7 Carolina Belle 2nd
1 Claudia's Flame WON
3 This Smoke Did It
2 I'llthinkofsumthin 3rd $2 ex 23.20 $2 tri 124.60

Race 7
4 Moment of Song WON
7 Sure As Shootin
10 Little Paper Boat
9 Smart Partner2nd $2 ex 26.60
Race 8

10 R Vicarious Girl WON
6 Kickin N Screamin DH 3rd
8 Golden Celebrity DH 3rd
3 Hurricane Nikki 2nd

Race 9
1 My Privileged SCR
6 Ravencliff WON
3 A Fleet Prospector 2nd
5 Taxicab 3rd

Race 10
8 Weigelia 2nd
6 Prosico WON
1 Not Acclaim SCR
3 Salute the Count 3rd

P4 looks very chalky with an obvious single of Moment of Song in the first leg and the two stand outs in the last leg. Can't see chasing with a big ticket, so I'll go for the chalk and hit it a couple of times:

P4 play - 4//3,6,8,10//1,3,5,6//6,8 = 32.00 73.90

Good Luck Everybody and especially Dee Tee Stables! - for those in town, I'll see ya at the Downs!

[tiggerv]

My ticket today.

Race 7
4 Moment of Song

Race 8
10 R Vicarious Girl
6 Kicking N Screamin
3 Hurricane Nikki
8 Golden Celebrity
5 Siempre Verde
(Will also include AE12, AE14 if draw in)

Race 9
6 Ravencliff
3 A Fleet Prospector

Race 10
8 Weigelia
6 Prosico
2 Hold The Salt
3 Salute The Count
4 Bucky's Prayer

$50

Good luck to all especially Dee Tee connections.

Edit ticket for scratches.

[Bigsmc]

P4 looks very chalky with an obvious single of Moment of Song in the first leg and the two stand outs in the last leg. Can't see chasing with a big ticket, so I'll go for the chalk and hit it a couple of times:

P4 play - 4//3,6,8,10//1,3,5,6//6,8 = 32.00

Good Luck Everybody and especially Dee Tee Stables! - for those in town, I'll see ya at the Downs!


Couldn't disagree with you more on the last race (that's why I love this game). I think there are several capable of knocking off your top two. Too many things can happen in a 5f turf dash (bad break, traffic, wide trip, etc...) that leave the horse with too much work to do and not enough distance to get there.

1 - Not Acclaim - Will be flying from the outset for Kirk Zaidie. 5f specialist will try to take them the whole way.
2 - Hold the Salt - Recently won a 100k Stake at KD.
3 - Salute the Count - Is dangerous for Dutrow. Blazing PmM work. 2nd in the Jaipur to Ecclesiastic and beat Weigelia. Listed Stake winner at Med.
4 - Bucky's Prayer - Horse for the course. Former track record holder here.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Couldn't disagree with you more on the last race (that's why I love this game). I think there are several capable of knocking off your top two. Too many things can happen in a 5f turf dash (bad break, traffic, wide trip, etc...) that leave the horse with too much work to do and not enough distance to get there.

1 - Not Acclaim - Will be flying from the outset for Kirk Zaidie. 5f specialist will try to take them the whole way.
2 - Hold the Salt - Recently won a 100k Stake at KD.
3 - Salute the Count - Is dangerous for Dutrow. Blazing PmM work. 2nd in the Jaipur to Ecclesiastic. Listed Stake winner at Med.
4 - Bucky's Prayer - Horse for the course. Former track record holder here.

There are some very interesting horses in here and this is probably the nicest race we've seen here this meet (including the stakes)...That said, IMO Trombetta's horse is in a class by itself - solid string of works coming in so the lay off is not a concern; Velez up; 7-2-1-2 the distance over turf - could make a case to include Salute the Count, but This is all the 8. I hope your right so I get a better price :D

[Bigsmc]

There are some very interesting horses in here and this is probably the nicest race we've seen here this meet (including the stakes)...That said, IMO Trombetta's horse is in a class by itself - solid string of works coming in so the lay off is not a concern; Velez up; 7-2-1-2 the distance over turf - could make a case to include Salute the Count, but This is all the 8. I hope your right so I get a better price :D

I am scratching my head as to why Weigelia is even in this race. This is a pretty tough field and he's running for a measly $21,200 purse. There is a race this Sunday at GP that he is eligible for (6f dirt) with a purse of $59,000.

TENTH RACE ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING
Purse $59,000. (Plus $5,000 F.O.A. Winner Supp.) For Four Year Olds And
Upward Which Have Not Won $25,000 Twice Other Than Maiden, Claiming
Or Starter Since August 2, 2007 Or Claiming Price $100,000.
Weight 124 lbs.
Non-winners Of Two Races Since January 3 2 lbs.
A Race Since Then 4 lbs.
(Maiden , Claiming, And Starter Races Not Considered In Allowances)
SIX FURLONGS

If the horse was doing well and ready to go, why not run for the bigger purse? The bullets he has shown indicate that he is okay with the GP dirt surface, so why run here today?

I could be way off base, but it just seems odd to me.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

race 7 4/6/10
race 8 6/5 kns has the late kick gl
race 9 9/2/3
race 10 8/2 lox n kippers ran great yesterday to get 3rd at gs

cant believe noone is using pp 5 siempre verde.. 2nd off the layoff

[Bigsmc]

race 7 4/6/10
race 8 6/5 kns has the late kick gl
race 9 9/2/3
race 10 8/2/1 lox n kippers ran great yesterday to get 3rd at gs

cant believe noone is using pp 5 siempre verde.. 2nd off the layoff

I did.

Are you posting from your vehicle while driving down US19?
GL Matt.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

not gonna make it this time...gl and have a blast!

[Rudeboyelvis]

I am scratching my head as to why Weigelia is even in this race. This is a pretty tough field and he's running for a measly $21,200 purse. There is a race this Sunday at GP that he is eligible for (6f dirt) with a purse of $59,000.

TENTH RACE ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING
Purse $59,000. (Plus $5,000 F.O.A. Winner Supp.) For Four Year Olds And
Upward Which Have Not Won $25,000 Twice Other Than Maiden, Claiming
Or Starter Since August 2, 2007 Or Claiming Price $100,000.
Weight 124 lbs.
Non-winners Of Two Races Since January 3 2 lbs.
A Race Since Then 4 lbs.
(Maiden , Claiming, And Starter Races Not Considered In Allowances)
SIX FURLONGS

If the horse was doing well and ready to go, why not run for the bigger purse? The bullets he has shown indicate that he is okay with the GP dirt surface, so why run here today?

I could be way off base, but it just seems odd to me.

Blue Pepsi Lodge?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Blue Pepsi Lodge?
will prob scr..

[viscount26]

quote from todays NY Daily News
Tampa Bay analysis by Tom Cavanagh
Race 8
Hurricane Nikki saved second Placing 1 3/4 out moving to Tony Wilsons barn in from Laurel; advances. Golden Celebrity led by a head; came up short 3/4's; up $25,000 off Jim Hartleys claim; on the Board in last six.
Kickin N Screamin got blocked; closed fastest missing by 3/4's; the Red hot Rosie h stays; can upset.

[NTamm1215]

For what it's worth and I know there are far, far better trip handicappers in here than myself, but #6 RAVENCLIFF in Race 9 had quite the trip last time out, breaking slow, racing wide, wider, wider and then fighting through the stretch to come up just short all the time while rallying into a slow pace. You have to figure that one's between him and Michael Catalano's horse on the rail.

NT

[Rudeboyelvis]

will prob scr..

Matt- was wondering if they (the connections of Weigelia) were looking to duplicate a similar plan to BPL...He came in here on 1/18 from GP, blew an alw field away by open lengths then ran back at GP 4 days later for a meatier purse and won that as well....

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Matt- was wondering if they (the connections of Weigelia) were looking to duplicate a similar plan to BPL...He came in here on 1/18 from GP, blew an alw field away by open lengths then ran back at GP 4 days later for a meatier purse and won that as well....
very well could be but is a 7 year old..trombetta is a good trainer so i cant second guess anything.. good luck today

[infield_line]

some pretty good coherence between our picks... watching not playing so hope you hit..

I/L

[MISTERGEE]

isnt blue pepsi lodge trained by the miracle working kirk ziadie? who is better than that? the guy who trained him before kz is made out to look like a crappy trainer even though he has trained for maybe 30 years and has won his fair share of races

[Coach Pants]

Spot play in today's first race. A truly bad MCL 8k so I look for anyone making changes or reasons they may improve today because there isn't much to beat here.

9 - Zaam Time has a few factors that make her stand out to me. The first thing I saw was a major jockey change from HQ Rodriguez (one of the worst on the grounds) to Pablo Morales (16% winners at the meet). Second, she breezed a 36 and 3 last friday, MCL 8k horses do not breeze that fast so it tells me she is on go. She's also making her third start off a six month layoff for fans of that angle. Finally, sprinkle a little first time Lasix on top and you have today's value play at 10-1 M/L. Not sure if you'll get 10-1, but Proctor (10) and Scace (7) should take most of the money and help us get some value here.

Good luck.

Good call

[DJARUM]

Spot play in today's first race. A truly bad MCL 8k so I look for anyone making changes or reasons they may improve today because there isn't much to beat here.

9 - Zaam Time has a few factors that make her stand out to me. The first thing I saw was a major jockey change from HQ Rodriguez (one of the worst on the grounds) to Pablo Morales (16% winners at the meet). Second, she breezed a 36 and 3 last friday, MCL 8k horses do not breeze that fast so it tells me she is on go. She's also making her third start off a six month layoff for fans of that angle. Finally, sprinkle a little first time Lasix on top and you have today's value play at 10-1 M/L. Not sure if you'll get 10-1, but Proctor (10) and Scace (7) should take most of the money and help us get some value here.

Good luck.

Nice call bigs, hope you made a bundle!!!!!

[Scav]

Spot play in today's first race. A truly bad MCL 8k so I look for anyone making changes or reasons they may improve today because there isn't much to beat here.

9 - Zaam Time has a few factors that make her stand out to me. The first thing I saw was a major jockey change from HQ Rodriguez (one of the worst on the grounds) to Pablo Morales (16% winners at the meet). Second, she breezed a 36 and 3 last friday, MCL 8k horses do not breeze that fast so it tells me she is on go. She's also making her third start off a six month layoff for fans of that angle. Finally, sprinkle a little first time Lasix on top and you have today's value play at 10-1 M/L. Not sure if you'll get 10-1, but Proctor (10) and Scace (7) should take most of the money and help us get some value here.

Good luck.

There you go again handing out free money to all. Looks like you just paid for your whole day out there PLUS.....Hopefully some people at DT jumped on this at a free 9/1

[oilertige]

Spot play in today's first race. A truly bad MCL 8k so I look for anyone making changes or reasons they may improve today because there isn't much to beat here.

9 - Zaam Time has a few factors that make her stand out to me. The first thing I saw was a major jockey change from HQ Rodriguez (one of the worst on the grounds) to Pablo Morales (16% winners at the meet). Second, she breezed a 36 and 3 last friday, MCL 8k horses do not breeze that fast so it tells me she is on go. She's also making her third start off a six month layoff for fans of that angle. Finally, sprinkle a little first time Lasix on top and you have today's value play at 10-1 M/L. Not sure if you'll get 10-1, but Proctor (10) and Scace (7) should take most of the money and help us get some value here.

Good luck.

Thanks for the heads up - used ZT and cashed - keep'em coming! May this be a great day for DT!!!!

[Scav]

7: 4
8: 1,2,3,5,7,8,9,10,11
9: 6
10: 3,4,8

[Mike9J]

Nice call Bigs...once again you saved my bankroll...

[pmacdaddy]

Bigs!!!! Caught $20 on the nose...

Now let's parlay on KNS!

[tiggerv]

Doh, missed Bigs free money. Nice job. Work always getting in the way of the important stuff.

Are we going to bet KNS down to 1/5 today?

[tiggerv]

Pick 4 Scratches

RACE 7 #3-Scratched(Silver Blue)
#5-Scratched(Li Bien)
#9-+2 #11-Scratched(Real Diligence)
Post Time 3:17

RACE 8 (Turf) #1-jockey F. Mata
#4-Scratched(Golden Policy)
#12-Scratched(She Spells Trouble)
#13-Scratched(Robin On the Wire)
#14-Scratched(Electric Sky)
Post Time 3:44

RACE 9 #1-Scratched(My Privileged)
#7-+1
Post Time 4:11

RACE 10 (Turf)
#1-Scratched(Not Acclaim) #4-+3
Post Time 4:38

[Scav]

Rich Perloff's play

7: 4,6,7
8: 3,6,7,8,10
9: 5
10: 6,8

[Supah Brother]

Good luck to all today! Can’t wait to see KNS in the winners circle...

Here is my attempt at the Tampa pick 4

4,7,9,10
5,6
6
2,3,6,8

[tiggerv]

Whew, Rosemary gave me a scare with how far back the 4 was but she must have known she had a ton of horse.

Lets go KNS

[Scav]

Whew, Rosemary gave me a scare with how far back the 4 was but she must have known she had a ton of horse.

Lets go KNS

Same **** happened before, she won the race before KnS's first run....

[oilertige]

Same **** happened before, she won the race before KnS's first run....

Was thinkin' the same; but didn't want to bring it up! Hey, no one is superstitious here! GO KNS!!!!

[tiggerv]

Chalky...

[Coach Pants]

The daily Tampa threads are informative and helpful. Awesome work, guys.

Faine off for Wasiluk landed me a $.50 super on a $4 wager. Thanks again.

[GPK]

The daily Tampa threads are informative and helpful. Awesome work, guys.

Faine off for Wasiluk landed me a $.50 super on a $4 wager. Thanks again.


Only reason I even had the 8 listed in both plays.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

45 Buck Pick 4 Lol

[Coach Pants]

Hold the Salt Win

[tiggerv]

Hold the Salt Win

I am right with you. I think he has a huge chance at good odds.

[docicu3]

Oh well the thrill of victory even if the payout sucked at least broke my Tampa P4 virginity.....finally congrats to all!!!

[pointman]

Hit this one . . . and lost $20. Better than not hitting at all!

[SentToStud]

I am scratching my head as to why Weigelia is even in this race. This is a pretty tough field and he's running for a measly $21,200 purse. There is a race this Sunday at GP that he is eligible for (6f dirt) with a purse of $59,000.

TENTH RACE ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING
Purse $59,000. (Plus $5,000 F.O.A. Winner Supp.) For Four Year Olds And
Upward Which Have Not Won $25,000 Twice Other Than Maiden, Claiming
Or Starter Since August 2, 2007 Or Claiming Price $100,000.
Weight 124 lbs.
Non-winners Of Two Races Since January 3 2 lbs.
A Race Since Then 4 lbs.
(Maiden , Claiming, And Starter Races Not Considered In Allowances)
SIX FURLONGS

If the horse was doing well and ready to go, why not run for the bigger purse? The bullets he has shown indicate that he is okay with the GP dirt surface, so why run here today?

I could be way off base, but it just seems odd to me.

Quite possibly the Super Stakes on 2/9 going 7F. He ran a very nice 2nd in it last year and also won going 7 in the Kenny Noe in Dec, '06.

Maybe he needed the race today but I didn't think he looked very good.

[Bigsmc]

Look at the good Doctor weighing in. I am still trying to formulate my ticket into something managable. I think the two turf races are very wide open.

Could be a nice P4 (of course now that I say that, it'll go chalk/chalk/chalk/chalk and pay about $80).

GL Doc.

Didn't miss that by much. Maybe next time I'll just shut up.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Quite possibly the Super Stakes on 2/9 going 7F. He ran a very nice 2nd in it last year and also won going 7 in the Kenny Noe in Dec, '06.

Maybe he needed the race today but I didn't think he looked very good.
Super Stakes Nominations:

ALARMING AFLEET b.c.4 Dennis Dwyer Enrique Alonso
B L'S A RUNNER ch.h.5 Monarch Stables, Inc. Larry Pilotti
CHATAIN b.h.5 Lazy F Ranch Angel J. Penna, Jr.
CURIOUS TIGER dk b/.c.4 C. Robert Valeri Lynne M. Scace
D'ARTAGNANS'SPIRIT b.g.6 Richard N. Averill and Stephen M. White Kirk Ziadie
DRUMS OF THUNDER ch.c.4 Elkins, Ione and Herbert J. William A. Kaplan
DUBAI GOLD ch.g.5 Jim Stackpoole Michael Dini
EL BANDIDO ROJO ch.g.4 Buckley, Jr., John, Durante, Ralph and Pennston Farm Inc. William P. White
ELITE SQUADRON ch.c.4 Tom R. Walters James E. Baker
GOLD TRIPPI ch.g.4 E. Paul Robsham Stables LLC Stanley M. Hough
HE'S SO CHIC dk b/.c.4 Char-Mari Stable Jason Servis
I'VEGOTTABEME ch.g.4 Peter D. Fuller Michael L. Catalano, Jr.
IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY gr/ro.g.4 Pell, Lewis and Eigner, Michael William A. Kaplan
IRISH GENTLEMAN ch.g.5 Harlingen Stable Joe McAlister
KEYED ENTRY dk b/.h.5 Starlight, Lucarelli and Saylor Todd A. Pletcher
LOOKINFORTHESECRET ch.h.6 Balkrisna Sukharan Jamie Ness
ON THE VINEYARD ch.c.4 Lynne M. Scace Lynne M. Scace
PARADISE DANCER ch.g.8 Richard N. Averill Kirk Ziadie
PUNTO FIJO (URU) dk b/.h.5 Roger Urbina Manuel J. Azpurua
REXSON'S ROSE b.h.5 Rose Family Stable Barry R. Rose
SENECA SUMMER b.g.7 Barbara Rehbein Bernell B. Rhone
STORM IN MAY gr/ro.c.4 Kaplan, William A., Palmer, Teresa and David and Waugh, Felicity William A. Kaplan
TYTUS dk b/.g.4 Web's Gem Stable and Jagger, Inc. Jamie Ness
VICARIAN b.g.4 Lothenbach Stables, Inc. Ian R. Wilkes
WHISKEY LIT b.g.4 Rookie Thoroughbred Racing Stable, Inc. Jane Cibelli



I'm pumped for Chatain - Hope we see him :D