DT Contest - Week 1

[DerbyCat]

In the contest this weekend we will be playing two races on Saturday, January 5th – the Hutcheson Stakes at Gulfstream and the Count Fleet Stakes at Aqueduct. As usual, please post your pick and an alternate pick in case your first choice scratches.

GULFSTREAM: Hutcheson Stakes (Grade II)
RACE # 9 DISTANCE: 7 Furlongs
PP’s: Brisnet (http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdfs/daleromans_98689.pdf)
Daily Racing Form (http://www.drf.com/row/pps/07GPhucheson.pdf)
Post # Horse Med. Trainer Jockey Weight
1 TIZ IT (L) Terranova, II, J Velazquez, J 116
2 GRAND MINSTREL (L) Jerkens, J Coa, E 116
3a COOL COAL MAN (L) Zito, N Velasquez, C 116
4 HALO NAJIB (L) Romans, D Desormeaux, K 116
5 SMOOTH AIR (L) Stutts, Jr., B Cruz, M 116
6 SILVER EDITION (L) Lukas, D Douglas, R 116
7 BIG TRUCK (L) Tagg, B Castellano, J 118
8 NOTGIVINMYLOVEAWAY (L) Baker, R Prado, E 116
9 GOLDEN SPIKES (L) Wolfson, MD Castro, E 116
10aCOAL PLAY (L) Zito, N Velasquez, C 116
a-Coupled: Cool Coal Man and Coal Play


AQUEDUCT: Count Fleet Stakes
RACE # 8 DISTANCE: 1 Mile and 70 Yards
PP’s: Brisnet (http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdfs/toddpletcher_98785.pdf)
Post Horse Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Red Reef (FL) Colt 116 Stewart Elliott
2 Spanky Fischbein (NY) Ridgling 116 Michael J. Luzzi
3 Run With Me (FL) Colt 116 Rajiv Maragh
4 Atta Boy Andy (PA) Gelding 118 Eriluis Vaz
5 Barrier Reef (KY) Colt 116 Alan Garcia
6 Roman Emperor (KY) Colt 118 Jeremy Rose
7 Giant Moon (NY) Colt 120 Ramon A. Dominguez

[rontheman1964]

In the Hutcheson - Halo Najib alt- Big Truck


Count Fleet - Giant Moon alt- Spanky Fischbein

[PPerfectfan]

Hutchinson: Cool Coal Man Alt- Big Truck

[pweizer]

In the Hutchenson:

Golden Spikes (alternate Grand Minstrel).

In the Count Fleet:

Giant Moon (alternate Red Reef)

Paul

[Duvalier]

Hutcheson: Notgivinmyloveaway

Alt: Halo Najib

Count Fleet: Barrier Reef

Alt: Roman Emperor

[Cannon Shell]

Hutch- Big Truck
alt - Tiz It

Count Fleet- Barrier Reef
alt- Roman Empire

[ninetoone]

Halo Najib

[Scav]

Smooth Air
Alt: Favorite

Roman Emperor
Alt: Favorite

[GBBob]

Hutch:

Big Truck

Alt: notgivenmyloveaway

Count Fleet:

Giant Moon

Alt: Spanky

[declansharbor]

Notgivenmyloveaway

alt. Grand Minstrel



Roman Emperor

alt. Run with me

[wiphan]

Grand Minstrel

Alt- Big Truck

Count Fleet:
Spanky Fischbein

Alt-Giant Moon

[trifecta124]

In The Hutcheson:

Coal Play

Alt: Grand Minstrel

In the Count Fleet:

Roman Emperor

Alt: Giant Moon

[MaTH716]

HUTCH
Halo Najib
alt:Big Truck

COUNT FLEET
Roman Emperor
alt:Barrier Reef

[3kings]

Hutch----Tiz It--Alt Big Truck

Count Fleet------Giant Moon-----Alt--Roman Emp.

[Lava]

Hutcheson
8 NOTGIVINMYLOVEAWAY
alternate 5 SMOOTH AIR

Count Fleet
5 Barrier Reef
alternate 6 Roman Emperor

[Hoist Her Flag]

Hutcheson:

Halo Najib alt Golden Spikes

Aquduct:

Spank Monster alt Red Barrier

[PPerfectfan]

Hutchinson: Cool Coal Man Alt- Big Truck


Count Fleet: Spanky (Alt)Red Reef

[Bigsmc]

Hutch - Cool Air
Alt - Big Truck

CFleet - Spanky Fischbein
Alt - Roman Emperor

[_ed_]

Hutcheson: Big Truck (Alt: Halo Najib)
Count Fleet: Barrier Reef (Alt: Roman Emperor)

[ninetoone]

Count Fleet: Barrier Reef

[Dunbar]

Count Fleet: Barrier Reef (Alt: Giant Moon)

Hutch: Golden Spikes (Alt: Smooth Air)

--Dunbar

[mes5107]

Hutcheson S.
Smooth Air (alt Cool Coal Man)

Count Fleet S.
Spanky Fischbein (alt Roman Emperor)

[TitanSooner]

The Hutcheson:
Coal Play
alt. Halo Najib

The Count Fleet
Spanky Fischbein
alt. Roman Emperor

[otisotisotis]

Hutch - Coal Play - alt.Tiz It

Count - Giant Moon - alt. Roman Emperor

[Heels1989]

Hutch
Golden Spikes
Alt: Grand Minstrel

Count Fleet
Giant Moon
Alt: Roman Emperor

[Gaines2b]

Count Fleet
GIANT MOON
alt(Roman Emperor)

Hutcheson
SMOOTH AIR

alt(Cool Coal Man)

GL!

[Oaklawnfan]

Count Fleet...Giant Moon , alt. Red Reef

Hutcheson....Grand Minstrel, alt. Halo Najib
thanks

[pgiaco]

Hutcheson: Golden Spikes, alt.: Big Truck
Count Fleet: Barrier Reef, alt.: Giant Moon

[swedejxn]

Count Fleet .... Barrier Reef ... alt Spanky Fisch...

Hutchinson.... Halo Najib... alt Big Truck

[PeteMugg]

Hutchinson ... Grand Minstrel .. alt. Big Truck

Count Fleet ... Barrier Reef .. alt. Roman Emperor

[DelKev]

Hutch -- Big Truck alt Grand Minstrel
CFleet -- Spanky Fischbein alt Giant Moon

[herkhorse]

Hutch: Tiz It
alt: Grand Minstral

CF Stakes: Barrier Reef
alt: Roman Emperor

[2 Dollar Bill]

Gulfstream race # 9
Notgivinmyloveaway............. alt.... Grand Minstrel (scratched) TIZ IT #1
Aqueduct Race # 8
Giant Moon....................alt.... Barrier Reef

[sundaysilenceforever]

Hutcheson: Big Truck
alt: Halo Najib

Count Fleet: Barrier Reef
alt: Giant Moon

[FlaFemFatale]

Count Fleet
Barrier Reef.......alt Atta Boy Andy



Hutchison
Big Truck.......alt Smooth Air

[tiggerv]

Hutchison - Big Truck (Alt Smooth Air)
Count - Roman Emperor (Alt Red Reef)

[AngelSita]

Hutcheson - Coal Play (Alt. Halo Najib)
Count Fleet - Giant Moon (Alt. Roman Emperor)

[nomad]

Hutcheson:

top pick- #4 Halo Najib

alt #5 Smooth Air


Count Fleet:

top pick- #7 Giant Moon

alt #2 Fishy Beanbag/Spanky Fishburn...whatever

[megahertz]

Hutcheson-Cool Coal Man (Halo Najib)
Count Fleet-Roman Empire (Giant Moon)

[Many Others]

Hutch: Golden Spikes, alt. Big Truck

CF: Giant Moon, alt. Run with Me

[ryonker]

Hutcheson-Grand Minstrel (alt: Coal Play)
Count Fleet-Barrier Reef (alt: Giant Moon)

thanks
Ron

[golfer]

Hutcheson:
Silver Edition
Alt: Cool Coal Man



Count Fleet:
Barrier Reef
alt: Spanky Fischbein

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Count Fleet -
Roman Emperor
alt. Barrier Reef

Hutcheson -
Coal Play
alt. Smooth Air

[TheSpyder]

Hutchinson:
Silver Edition
Alt. Grand Minstral

Count Fleet:
Atta Boy Andy
Alt. Roma Emperor

[tiznowthegreat]

Hutch

Halo Najib
Alt- Golden Spikes

Count Fleet

Barrier Reef
Alt - Spanky

[jms62]

Contests are not won with chalk...;)

Hutch:

8-NotGivenmyloveaway

Alt:

1-Tiz It

Count Fleet

4-Atta Boy Andy

Alt:

6-Roman Emperor

[gamblin4ever]

Hutchison: Notgivingmyloveaway Alt: Golden Spikes


Count Fleet: Barrier Reef Alt; Red Reef

[smitty1278]

Count Fleet Barrier Reef alt. Roman emperor Hutcheson Golden Spikes Alt. Tiz it

[cowgirlintexas]

Hutchinson:

Tiz It

alt:Big Truck


Count Fleet:

Roman Emperor

alt:Barrier Reef

[horseofcourse]

Hutcheson...Cool Coal Man...alt...Tiz It

Count Fleet...Roman Emperor...alt...Spanky Fischbein

[my miss storm cat]

Hutcheson... Golden Spikes (alt. Hello Najib)

Count Fleet... Barrier Reef (alt. Roman Emperor)

edit - GM scratched.....

[Port Conway Lane]

Hutcheson Grand Minstrel alt. Tiz It

Count Fleet Red Reef alt Barrier Reef

[zippyneedsawin]

Hutch: Coal Play..... Alt.. Tiz It



Count: Roman Emperor..... Alt. ... Barrier Reef

[cboh11]

hutch - smooth air alt- grand minstrel

count fleet- roman emperor -alt barrier reef

thanks

[Riot]

Hutcheson: Smooth Air (alt: Halo Najib)

Count Fleet: Barrier Reef (alt: Spanky Fischbein)

[mclem10011]

Hutcheson- #5 Smooth Air alt- Halo Najib
Count Fleet- #5 Barrier Reef alt-Roman Emperor
Good Luck All!

[viscount26]

Hutcheson
Tiz It
alt Halo Najib

Count Fleet
Giant Moon
alt Barrier Reef

[DerbyCat]

GULFSTREAM: Hutcheson Stakes
GOLDEN SPIKES
Alt. HALO NAJIB

AQUEDUCT: Count Fleet Stakes
Spanky Fischbein
Alt. Roman Emperor

I'm headed to Golden Gate Fields today (my favorite horse, Proud Patrolman, is running in the 4th) so I won't get todays totals up until later tonight or tomorrow morning... thanks for your patience and understanding.

[Immanuel Kant]

Hutcheson: Notgivinmyloveaway (alt: Halo Najib)

Count Fleet: Barrier Reef (alt: Roman Emperor)

[cal828]

Hutcheson: Tiz It (alt. Golden Spikes)

Count Fleet: Roman Emperor (alt. Giant Moon)

[GenuineRisk]

Argh; I forgot! If it's not too late:


Hutcheson: Big Truck, alt. Grand Mistrial

Count Fleet: Roman Emporer, alt. Barrier Reef

[hi_im_god]

hutcheson:

silver edition
alt: coal play

count fleet:

red reef
alt: giant moon

[pmacdaddy]

To get Pointman on record as he is out of town w/o web access.

Pat, can you do me a favor?* I can't get on DT.* Can you post my selections for me?*

In the Hutchenson I like Cool*Coal Manm alternate Golden Spikes*and

in the Count Fleet I am going with Roman Emporer and alternate is*Run With Me.* Thanks*

[trifecta124]

To get Pointman on record as he is out of town w/o web access.

Pat, can you do me a favor?* I can't get on DT.* Can you post my selections for me?*

In the Hutchenson I like Cool*Coal Manm alternate Golden Spikes*and

in the Count Fleet I am going with Roman Emporer and alternate is*Run With Me.* Thanks*

Are you playing today Pmac?

[GBBob]

Smooth Air
Alt: Favorite

Roman Emperor
Alt: Favorite

Nice hit Scavs

very nice

[golfer]

Nice hit Scavs

very nice

It was a good decision to get off the Big Truck;)

[Scav]

Nice hit Scavs

very nice

Looks like multiple people nailed it, I thought I might have separated to start after I checked the result on my phone.

Wish I had real money on it :)

ty

[GBBob]

Looks like multiple people nailed it, I thought I might have separated to start after I checked the result on my phone.

Wish I had real money on it :)

ty

I know..should have said "nice job" to many more

[Dunbar]

Titan of Industry

alt: Why Tonto


Count Fleet: Barrier Reef (Alt: Giant Moon)

Hutch: Golden Spikes (Alt: Smooth Air)



Note to self: Bet Dunbar's "Alt" picks!


--Dunbar

[DerbyCat]

Nice picks yesterday by Gaines2b (he picked both winners) and Dunbar (he had both winners as his alternate picks). Our leaders after three races are Gaines2b, cboh11 and Hickory Hill Hoff. There are currently 70 members in the contest and the key to winning this is to make pick each week, but if you miss a week or two that’s ok, one long shot winner can catch you up.

Standings after three races:
# DT Member Count Fleet Hutchenson TOTAL
1 Gaines2b $14.60 $35.40 = $50.00
2 cboh11 $2.90 $35.40 = $46.90
2 Hickory Hill Hoff $2.90 $35.40 = $46.90
4 Mclem10011 $0.00 $35.40 = $44.00
5 Bigsmc $7.60 $35.40 = $43.00
5 mes5107 $7.60 $35.40 = $43.00
7 Mumtaz $0.00 $35.40 = $40.00
8 Scav $2.90 $35.40 = $38.30
9 2 Dollar Bill $14.60 $0.00 = $31.80
9 viscount26 $14.60 $0.00 = $31.80
11 golfer $0.00 $18.40 = $27.00
12 Oaklawnfan $14.60 $2.80 = $26.00
12 rontheman1964 $14.60 $2.80 = $26.00
14 DerbyCat $7.60 $0.00 = $24.80
15 Heels1989 $14.60 $0.00 = $23.20
15 pweizer $14.60 $0.00 = $23.20
17 MaTH716 $2.90 $2.80 = $22.90
17 megahertz $2.90 $2.80 = $22.90
19 otisotisotis $14.60 $0.00 = $19.20
20 Hoist Her Flag $7.60 $2.80 = $19.00
21 hi im god $0.00 $18.40 = $18.40
21 TheSpyder $0.00 $18.40 = $18.40
23 nomad $14.60 $2.80 = $17.40
24 3kings $14.60 $0.00 = $14.60
24 GBBob $14.60 $0.00 = $14.60
24 Many Others $14.60 $0.00 = $14.60
24 merasmag $14.60 $0.00 = $14.60
28 cowgirlintexas $2.90 $0.00 = $11.50
28 declansharbor $2.90 $0.00 = $11.50
28 DelKev $2.90 $0.00 = $11.50
28 zippyneedsawin $2.90 $0.00 = $11.50
32 Swedejxn $0.00 $2.80 = $11.40
32 tiznowthegreat $0.00 $2.80 = $11.40
34 TitanSooner $7.60 $2.80 = $10.40
35 AngelSita No Pick No Pick = $8.60
35 SniperSB23 No Pick No Pick = $8.60
37 Pperfectfan $7.60 $0.00 = $7.60
37 wiphan $7.60 $0.00 = $7.60
39 horseofcourse $2.90 $0.00 = $7.50
39 tiggerv $2.90 $0.00 = $7.50
41 CannonShell $0.00 $0.00 = $4.60
41 deltagulf No Pick No Pick = $4.60
41 PeteMugg $0.00 $0.00 = $4.60
41 pgiaco $0.00 $0.00 = $4.60
45 Cal828 $2.90 $0.00 = $2.90
45 GenuineRisk $2.90 $0.00 = $2.90
45 pointman $2.90 $0.00 = $2.90
45 trifecta124 $2.90 $0.00 = $2.90
49 Ninetoone $0.00 $2.80 = $2.80
50 abe1947 No Pick No Pick = $0.00
50 DaHoss9698 $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 Dunbar $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 Duvalier $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 dylbert No Pick No Pick = $0.00
50 ed $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 FlaFemFatale $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 gamblin4ever $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 geeker2 No Pick No Pick = $0.00
50 herkhorse $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 Immanuel Kant $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 jms62 $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 Lava $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 my miss storm cat $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 NTamm1215 No Pick No Pick = $0.00
50 Port Conway Lane $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 ryonker $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 Saucon17 No Pick No Pick = $0.00
50 smitty1278 $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 sundaysilenceforever $0.00 $0.00 = $0.00
50 wac No Pick No Pick = $0.00

As always, if you see an error on my part, please feel free to let me know - I am far from perfect!

[Dunbar]

Some nice scores, but as a whole, we are doing worse than the track take. I get that there have been 192 picks in the contest for a total of $6 * 192 = $1152 in bets. We've (and in my case I use "we've" very loosely) collected a total of $921.90, which is a 20% rate of loss.

--Dunbar

[rontheman1964]

Dunbar, depends on how you look at the numbers. Of 70 entrants 22 of them are above the $18.00 break even point. That is over 31% of the crowd that is making money at the track. Not sure where you play but I bet 31% of the crowd doesn't make money. :D

[Dunbar]

Dunbar, depends on how you look at the numbers. Of 70 entrants 22 of them are above the $18.00 break even point. That is over 31% of the crowd that is making money at the track. Not sure where you play but I bet 31% of the crowd doesn't make money. :D

Well, it's way too early to draw any conclusions. I only posted the 20% fig because I thought it was mildly interesting. I'll keep tabs on that stat as the contest progresses.

Your way of looking at it is interesting, especially if a sizable number are still ahead at the end of the Contest. But if the Group above breakeven is truly more than what would happen at a typical track, the group BELOW breakeven must be doing far worse than your typical track bettors. Otherwise the combined fig (-20%) wouldn't be so bad.

Again, at this point it's too soon to get excited one way or another.

--Dunbar

[PPerfectfan]

All I know is I am glad I am not last!!!!! :D

[hi_im_god]

Well, it's way too early to draw any conclusions. I only posted the 20% fig because I thought it was mildly interesting. I'll keep tabs on that stat as the contest progresses.

Your way of looking at it is interesting, especially if a sizable number are still ahead at the end of the Contest. But if the Group above breakeven is truly more than what would happen at a typical track, the group BELOW breakeven must be doing far worse than your typical track bettors. Otherwise the combined fig (-20%) wouldn't be so bad.

Again, at this point it's too soon to get excited one way or another.

--Dunbar


did you take into account all the "no bets"?

and the fact that'd i'd never, ever bet across the board in real life.

if i had made 3 actual bets, my return would be -$6.00, not +$0.40.

[AngelSita]

Hutcheson - Coal Play (Alt. Halo Najib)
Count Fleet - Giant Moon (Alt. Roman Emperor)

Derbycat -

You missed my picks.

[Scav]

As long as I beat Bigs, I am a happy person

[Bigsmc]

As long as I beat Bigs, I am a happy person

GFY

[Dunbar]

did you take into account all the "no bets"?

and the fact that'd i'd never, ever bet across the board in real life.

if i had made 3 actual bets, my return would be -$6.00, not +$0.40.

Yes, I counted the "no bets" correctly.

AngelSita's picks would change the DT return from -20.0% to -19.5%. (194 picks; $936.50 in winning tickets on bets of $1164.

--Dunbar

[DerbyCat]

Derbycat -

You missed my picks.


I apologize for that, I'll update the spreadsheet tonight when I get home :o

[_ed_]

$0, solid start.

[2 Dollar Bill]

$0, solid start.
The good news you can only go UP !!

[Buffymommy]

See what happens when life gets too busy? I friggen miss the Derby contest!


Can I start this weekend? I will have to pull a Slew's Tizzy out of my butt in order to catch up though.... :D

[3kings]

I believe it was stated you can start at any time. So join in, I'm sure many people have hectic lives and will miss a few weeks.

[DerbyCat]

See what happens when life gets too busy? I friggen miss the Derby contest!


Can I start this weekend? I will have to pull a Slew's Tizzy out of my butt in order to catch up though.... :D


Buffymommy - you better play again this year, the contest wouldn't be the same without your and Carrot's picks! :D