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chromer
06-01-2006, 11:31 AM
I saw kasept posted one of these in the selections section. I hadn't heard of the wager so had too look it up at the nyra website.

This is a multi race wager where you are selecting runners in the first 3 legs that only have to show. If the ticket is alive after the first 3 legs, your selection(s) in the last leg has to win. The payoffs listed at drf the last few weeks are generally in the $30-50 range but there were days when it paid over $200 and over $500. I'm guessing these were days when a few strong favorites ran off the board in the qualifying legs because the odds on the winner of the last leg on the $500 day looked to be 4-1.

Has anyone been betting this? It looks like a good deal if you can get some qualifiers who are not favorites in and hope the favorite is off the board. Is that a reasonable approach?

Doesn't look like I can bet this at TVG anyway but I'm curious what those who have played this think of the wager.

jpops757
06-01-2006, 11:54 AM
I saw kasept posted one of these in the selections section. I hadn't heard of the wager so had too look it up at the nyra website.

This is a multi race wager where you are selecting runners in the first 3 legs that only have to show. If the ticket is alive after the first 3 legs, your selection(s) in the last leg has to win. The payoffs listed at drf the last few weeks are generally in the $30-50 range but there were days when it paid over $200 and over $500. I'm guessing these were days when a few strong favorites ran off the board in the qualifying legs because the odds on the winner of the last leg on the $500 day looked to be 4-1.

Has anyone been betting this? It looks like a good deal if you can get some qualifiers who are not favorites in and hope the favorite is off the board. Is that a reasonable approach?

Doesn't look like I can bet this at TVG anyway but I'm curious what those who have played this think of the wager. It looks like this is a bet you can win and lose very easly

Hoisttheflag
06-01-2006, 12:00 PM
I bet it but I bet very little and very infrequently. I doubt people looking to gamble to win money bet it but it is fun and cheap.

chromer
06-01-2006, 12:05 PM
The interesting aspect is that if you have a 2 x 3 x 2 x 3 ticket it is (theoretically) possible to have 12 live tickets (2 x 3 x 2 in the first 3 legs) going into the last leg. Winner in the last leg = 12x the payoff.

jpops757
06-01-2006, 12:17 PM
The interesting aspect is that if you have a 2 x 3 x 2 x 3 ticket it is (theoretically) possible to have 12 live tickets (2 x 3 x 2 in the first 3 legs) going into the last leg. Winner in the last leg = 12x the payoff.
Also getting a shot in the first 3 does little good when the chalk hits the board also.

chromer
06-01-2006, 12:23 PM
Also getting a shot in the first 3 does little good when the chalk hits the board also.

True dat. You want to have a chalk or two off the board in the first three to make a score. Look at this though:

8th Race, Next Post 5:18 Off: 4:45

1 Mile. 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes Purse: $147,000
# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
4 Take D' Tour Velasquez C 115 14.40 6.90 4.10
2 Balletto (UAE) Castellano J J 116 9.40 5.80
3 Smuggler Prado E S 120 3.60
Times in 5ths: :231 :461 1:104 1:36
Times in 100ths: :23.35 :46.28 1:10.84 1:36.10

Also ran: Grecian Lover and Indian Vale
Winning Trainer: Fawkes David - Owner: Muller, Alice
$2 Exacta (4-2) Paid $111.00
$2 Trifecta (4-2-3) Paid $382.00
$2 Grand Slam (1/6/11-1/3-1/3/7-4) Paid $590.00

Kasept
06-01-2006, 02:31 PM
Chrome/Pops,

I've been VERY intriguiged by the Grand Slam since Day One..

There's been SEVERAL great payoffs including the one you used as an example, and last Friday it paid $225 and was a snap to hit. I suggested a $21 ticket (1x1x1x3 x $7), which brought back nearly $900!

I've been trying singles in the first 3 legs and then a wide spread in the 4th as above. Andy Serling and discussed it a couple weeks ago on the show and then Steve Crist wrote about it at Andy's suggestion last Subday.

Read Crist's take in DRF, and listen to his comments tonight on ATRAB at 4:30pm...