where do you rank this past b cup?

[alysheba4]

bottom 3 for myself, the track and turf conditions were a mess........the turf being the worst, that mule bob dylan looked like a bad 35k claimer from aqeduct.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

that mule bob dylan looked like a bad 35k claimer from aqeduct.

I don't know who's performance was worse - the jockey or the horse.

That was some ride he got!

[alysheba4]

yeah, i dont know.......all i know is i got waxed.

[brianwspencer]

I don't know who's performance was worse - the jockey or the horse.

That was some ride he got!

But really, wasn't the result well within the realm of possibility given the weather situation? We all knew what the horse liked going in, and just had to weigh whether or not his B or C game in the bog would be enough to beat America's best A game horse.

It turns out it wasn't, but I'd hardly be pulling at the bit to trash the horse overall.

Well, that, and a bonehead ride.

[Cannon Shell]

It wasn't that great going in or coming out

[GPK]

I thought it was fantastic...

[golfer]

Overall, I thought this BC was awful, obviously due to the weather and track conditions. Too many extra variables to handicap with any confidence. If you guessed wrong about who would like the surface, you lost, if you guessed right, you won, or if you guessed right, but still bet like an idiot... well you get the picture. If it wasn't the BC, I never would have attempted betting this weekend.

[fpsoxfan]

Golfer brings up a good point. How many of us would have under normal circumstances played that track given the conditions? I was obviously disappointed that I didn't cash a single ticket the entire day, but the fact that most of the day was rather chalky contributed to that. Overall, I had a good time hanging with my friends and having some good food and plenty of drinks.

[cowgirlintexas]

First Breeders Cup that I did'nt get excited about. I did'nt even make one bet. I did look forward to the classic but my heart really never got to "racing" about any of it this year. Normally I study hard the night before with my ritual bowl of cheese dip and chips and have a blast but not this year. Hell, I did'nt even take the day off of work like I normally did in years past.
I suppose hearing that it was going to be a sloppy yucky track just kinds took the fun out of it.

[KirisClown]

Worst ive seen...

[NoChanceToDance]

My opinion post BC would be biased, so i will not post that.

However, pre Breeders cup it was the least excited i think i had ever been about a breeders cup.

I get the impression that the breeders cup is losing fans year after year, no matter where it is staged. Why is this? price? is it becoming too 'intense'?

[whodey17]

This is the first Breeders Cup that I ever missed. I wasn't at all excited about any of the racing prior to Breeders Cup day. In fact, I didn't watch any of the races on Breeders Cup day until Sunday morning. I wasn't all that excited in any of the horses competing and I am sure the weather would have pissed me off if I intended on wagering.

Next year might even be worse. Who knows what some of the horses running will do on a synthetic surface. Who knows what horses from Europe will come over to try the synthentic surface. It will be just a mess.

For whatever the reason, I have not been excited about racing for a few months now. I try to get excited about racing, but the excitement isn't genuine.

[Riot]

I liked it. But the only "chill" of excitement I got was when they went into the gate for the Classic.

I think that, looking back, this has been a very good year for exciting racing, and some good performances at the BC. But, when it all ends at the BC (or before), with every horse you want to follow retiring .... I think you tend to back off from the excitement, knowing you're gonna get disappointed in the end by being a fan.

[cowgirlintexas]

This is the first Breeders Cup that I ever missed. I wasn't at all excited about any of the racing prior to Breeders Cup day. In fact, I didn't watch any of the races on Breeders Cup day until Sunday morning. I wasn't all that excited in any of the horses competing and I am sure the weather would have pissed me off if I intended on wagering.

Next year might even be worse. Who knows what some of the horses running will do on a synthetic surface. Who knows what horses from Europe will come over to try the synthentic surface. It will be just a mess.

For whatever the reason, I have not been excited about racing for a few months now. I try to get excited about racing, but the excitement isn't genuine.

I feel the same way. Perhaps it was the way Smarty left and Invasor as well as Barbaro that makes me a bit leery about getting "hooked" again

[Coach Pants]

Denmantastic.

[ArlJim78]

How do I rank this "b cup?"

C cups are better than b cups, and sometimes, d cups are better than c cups.
i was going to go there, but i thought, no, too obvious.

[31lengths]

How do I rank this "b cup?"

C cups are better than b cups, and sometimes, d cups are better than c cups.


I NEVER were a cup....

[Port Conway Lane]

There have been many in the last 15 years that didn't live up to the ones in the 80's for me. This years was no different.

[Bobby Fischer]

I thought it was a great event. I really enjoyed the addition of the Juvenile Turf. The track conditions did add to the strategy, but in terms of aesthetics and tactics, I would have much preffered fast and firm track conditions.

[Danzig]

actually, i missed a lot of it. left the house to do my honey do's a little later than i planned. long day, got back in time to see english channel had won. and of course the dish dvr DIED two days beforehand (replacement of course came YESTERDAY) so no way to record.
can't remember the last time i didn't watch from start to finish.
so, where to rank it. not as good as last year for sure. not as bad as some others.
just an odd day.

[tiznowthegreat]

I guess I would be in the minority, but the BC is always my favorite day of the year. The day the advance edition comes out I buy it and look over it every night. I take off Friday from work and wake up at 6 am on Sat like a little kid at Christmas. I'm surprised to see how many people didn't watch it or just casually watched it. I can say I watched every minute of it and rewatched most of it Sunday.

[philcski]

It was in the bottom 20% for me, not because I did poorly (I did) or the facility (I love Monmouth Park and hope they go back) but because of the weather and the loss of George Washington. All the months of preparing ruined by the rain...

[Danzig]

i'm sure some of us are more up for some super bowls over others as well. i don't think it's an indication of lack of interest.
strange tho that some of us were out of it when we had the best showing of top three year old talent in some time. guess maybe it doesn't matter as much as some thought...

[ELA]

I had a great day -- a great week for that matter. The BC has a way of getting you charged up. Sure, the weather was bad, but I don't/didn't even think about that, nor would I dwell on it. I think Monmouth did a fantasic job and they will probably be in the running again in the future. They may move the dates a bit, or change some of the logistics, make it part of a larger meet, etc. That could all depend on where NJ racing is going vis a vis the Meadowlands, Monmouth, VLT's, and so on.

I've always enjoyed Monmouth, the facililty, racing, etc. and having the BC there was great. And, I got to see a super performance by the soon to be named Horse Of The Year. Hope everyone had a great day.

Eric

[booner]

This was only the 4th Breeder's Cup I've watched, as I didn't get attached to horse racing until early in '04. Last year at Churchill was the first I attended, and made the trip to Monmouth this year.

Monmouth is a beautiful track. The weather didn't cooperate, but I liked the setup nonetheless. I am making plans to head back there in the summer to see it w/o the bleachers set up. I know I won't be dissappointed.

I think they did a good job of hosting BC. Everything went smooth for me the entire time I was there. The track conditions did affect my handicapping; I know I would have had a better 2 days at the windows if the rain would've stayed away.

The one thing I enjoyed the most was being around true, die-hard horseplayers for 3 days. I haven't found too many in Kentucky, and most of the horseplayers I meet constantly want to bitch and moan about jockeys and trainers. In Jersey, I actually got to talk to several people about the horses themselves. On more than one occasion my wife saw the look in my eyes and told me, "No, I don't want to move up here".

Overall, my experience was great. The people I met and places I went were well above par. I can't wait to do it again!

[NoLuvForPletch]

The first one I really remember getting pumped up for was 1991, though I'm sure I watched before that. I've been to the BC in 2001 and 2005 at BEL and was supposed to go to this one at MTH. The reasons for my feelings of this being the worst for me:

Weather - obviously nothing can be done about the weather but what made it worse this year is that it was 2 days worth of racing (so I'm even more pumped up) but the weather ruined it. I went on Friday for 2 races and had to leave. We didn't go at all on Saturday. It's tough to pull this off in the NorthEast, but I'm sure they'll be back at BEL and I'm sure I'll go.

Venue - when they first announced that it was going to be at Monmouth, we said there was no way we would go because it is too small, and what if it rains? Well excitement superceeded sanity and we applied for seats. Not cheap seats and both days, so our expectations were that we would end up with good to decent seats. Well, whether this is Breeders Cup or Monmouth we took it up the a$$ when it came to our seats. We applied for seats ranging from the most expensive to the seats located on the apron. I believe the prices ranged from $250 - $160. We ended up with apron seats for both days, and the worst apron seats you could find. On Friday our seats were tolerable, inside the 1/8 pole about 1/4 of the way to the 1/16 pole (Section 801). Somehow our seats for Saturday were in section 811, which was at the top of the stretch (basically near the playground for you regular Monmouth goers) 4th row from the rail. So not only were we as far away from the finish line as you could be, but we were at ground level. What kind of moron made the decision to have 15 rows of folding chairs at ground level before starting the risers? You couldn't see the finish line with binocuars. So, after 2 races in a downpour on Friday and knowing that we'd be watching 99% of each race on the big screen in front of us Saturday, we bagged it. Ended up eating $765 worth of tickets, two days worth for 4 and a parking pass (which really annoys me because I've got a parking sticker). I really feel as though some of the seats were misrepresented when the initial maps went out. You can't have 15 rows of seats on the ground costing more than the temp bleacher seats behind them.

Wagering - one abbreviation, NJBETS. What a disgrace. So after all of the above I spent 75% of the day trying to get bets in to this joke of a system, some of which I didn't get in, instead of being able to just relax and enjoy what I could with the small party I had at my house. Of course my friend had no trouble at all betting on his NYCOTB account, which I have as well, but thought I'd be a good NJ resident and abide by the law. Probably cost me money, but can't really swear to it. I know I missed out on the Midnight Lute/Idiot Proof exacta, which I would've had pretty good.

So, all of the above combined makes this even worse than the day when we got into a car accident on the way to my friends house to watch the races. Some idiot made a left turn right into my truck. If it wasn't bad enough that it was my Wife's birthday, the accident took away any chance we had to talk about the pick 6. I put in the bet, from the side of the road. After the police officer drove us home to get our other car we headed into manhattan. We got there for the Sprint and my Wife says I like Reraise bet him across the board for me. Well, I've got Kona Gold, Affirmed Success and someone else in the Pk6, but no Reraise. The rest is history and I go home with 5 out of 6. Now imagine this past BC being worse than that.

Thanks for the opportunity to vent. I'm sure everyone else enjoyed their day more than I.

[Bigsmc]

Venue - when they first announced that it was going to be at Monmouth, we said there was no way we would go because it is too small, and what if it rains? Well excitement superceeded sanity and we applied for seats. Not cheap seats and both days, so our expectations were that we would end up with good to decent seats. Well, whether this is Breeders Cup or Monmouth we took it up the a$$ when it came to our seats. We applied for seats ranging from the most expensive to the seats located on the apron. I believe the prices ranged from $250 - $160. We ended up with apron seats for both days, and the worst apron seats you could find. On Friday our seats were tolerable, inside the 1/8 pole about 1/4 of the way to the 1/16 pole (Section 801). Somehow our seats for Saturday were in section 811, which was at the top of the stretch (basically near the playground for you regular Monmouth goers) 4th row from the rail. So not only were we as far away from the finish line as you could be, but we were at ground level. What kind of moron made the decision to have 15 rows of folding chairs at ground level before starting the risers? You couldn't see the finish line with binocuars. So, after 2 races in a downpour on Friday and knowing that we'd be watching 99% of each race on the big screen in front of us Saturday, we bagged it. Ended up eating $765 worth of tickets, two days worth for 4 and a parking pass (which really annoys me because I've got a parking sticker). I really feel as though some of the seats were misrepresented when the initial maps went out. You can't have 15 rows of seats on the ground costing more than the temp bleacher seats behind them.


My seats were basically the same as yours NLFP. Saturday was impossible to see as you predicted. I applied for the most expensive seats (that were not in a restaurant or special area) for both days and got those crap seats.

So, to answer the original question, it was by far the worst BC for me. This was my 7th BC and as I sat there staring at the big screen in the infield (that had several bad light bulbs in it, why they couldn't get it working correctly for two days is beyond me), not hearing any of Trevor Denmon's calls, trying to keep my racing form, mutuel tickets and myself dry, I thought to myself that this may be my last BC. Why pay $160 a seat (as well as plane ticket, rental car and hotel) to not see anything but the turn to the 1/8th pole because I was in a folding chair on the blacktop, when I can stay home and wager on line?

As far as ranking the racing portion of the BC, I'll give it a pass because of the conditions.

[horseofcourse]

I thought it was the same as all the others. We get too caught up in the field strength and all that. Weather is weather...it happens all the time. IT's not the first time it ever rained at a horse track or even at the BC. I think it is very conceivable the weather played no factor whatsoever in the races. With perfect weather, it is not inconceivable to think every single winner would have been the same in every race. You got huge performances from Corinthian and Curlin pulling in 119 Beyers. You had a 2 yr old pulling in a 113 Beyer. You had the best American turf hose running in his 3rd straight Turf and went from 5th to 3rd to 1st. What was wrong with the Classic field?? You had the 1-2-3 finishers from the turf race last year running in it again this year along with the European star....how much better could that field have been?? You had two undefeated 2 yr olds destroying the fields. What's wrong with that?? MIdnight Lute gave a strong performance.

It was the Breeders Cup. You had good horses and good fields just like other years. Personally I thought the performances were better than any of the last 3 at CD, Belmont, and Lone Star.

It was fine. Weather is uncontrollable.

[Dunbar]

I was less excited by this BC than any other. I think the addition of the Friday races was one negative factor. As kasept predicted, it diluted the excitement.

The track conditions were not a big negative for me. Most of the better horses performed well regardless. But there just wasn't much excitement about the entries. For instance, the Distaff is usually a compelling race for me, but this year it seemed blah. Definitely no Winning Colors vs Personal Ensign. Same with most of the other events besides the Classic.

--Dunbar

[Thunder Gulch]

I think this is the first time I've come out firmly ahead in several years. Track conditions really help narrow down these deep, deep fields for me. Sure I ended up tossing a few winners simply because of track conditions (English Channel), but the Maryfields and Kip Deville's of the world more than made up for it at the end of the weekend.

[eajinabi]

This yrs BC was crap.

1) Track conditions were sloppy and crappy
2) The addition of 3 more races makes shorter fields in the classic. Without the dirt mile, we might have seen wanderin boy, corinthian, discreet cat and others fill in the BC Classic field making it a fat 12 horse + field.

The 16 race BC program next yr will bring even shorter fields.

[ELA]

I think the racing was great. I'm biased, but regardless, I thought the racing was great. Jeez, how can you not be impressed with what Curlin has done this year. Most impressive performance of the day, and off the cuff, Midnight Lute second, Corinthian third; maybe I'm missing something.

The weather was lousy. It was what it was, Mother Nature -- what can you do. I think "Monmouth Park" as a facility was great. I think they did a super job, facility wise. The teller situation seemed very good, concession stands as well, and there didn't seem to be too many people in a facility that couldn't handle it. The ticket distribution and pricing strucuture is the abolsute worst I've ever seen it. In all the years of the Breeders Cup, it has now achieved a level of being pathetic. It must be changed. The Breeders Cup needs to be "a lot more" of a lot -- a lot more accessible to the masses, customer friendly and conducive, etc. Of course, this is not a host track issue however, it's a Breeders Cup issue.

I believe that the mindset of the Breeders Cup people/management is that they are more concerned about the business aspect, corporate sponsorship, revenues, etc. -- than they are about the show.

Eric

[Rudeboyelvis]

After initially destesting the idea of the Friday -Saturday format, I must admit I LOVE it - Man, taking the afternoon off on Friday to head over to the track (locally, not Monmouth :) ) for the prelude to Super Saturday was awesome, and something I'll look forward to for years to come.

Overall the racing was above par - and the Classic was one for the ages (save for GW :( ). Such a shame that the weather played such a huge factor, but one way to look at it is that we had the chance to see what truely great horses will overcome to become champions.

English Channel's Victory in the Turf was epic; what a way to go out!...Ginger Punch silencing (finally!) her critics, the list goes on.....The only strange twist was that I was glad I didn't go this year, and enjoyed the day from home....Nothing against Monmouth, but it ain't Santa Anita ;)

[pgardn]

Too bad the track was sloppy but I really enjoyed
the Classic. And of course English Channel winning
the turf in the manner he did was wonderful. The sprint
was really impressive. I enjoyed it.

George Washington's mishap clearly put a damper
on things. The racing itself was enjoyable for me.
Of course I like it almost every year.

[_ed_]

I really enjoyed it until I heard about George Washington. That totally ruined the day for me unfortunately.

I loved the racing up to that point though, despite the weather. Highlights for me were Indian Blessing, War Pass, Midnight Lute and the stretch battle in the Distaff.

I'm hoping next year's will be better.

[JJP]

Its too bad the weather had to suck. I thought the fields for both the Classic and Sprint were excellent. Top performances of the day? Midnight Lute and War Pass. Haven't seen Midnight Lute's Beyer but I'm guessing its in the 120 neighborhood. The Turf could've been a great field if some more top Euros came over; it did have two previous BC Turf winners and an Arc winner.

top performance: Midnight Lute
most tenacious: Ginger Punch
biggest disappointment: Dylan Thomas
worst decision: running GW on the main track, and in slop at that

[hockey2315]

Its too bad the weather had to suck. I thought the fields for both the Classic and Sprint were excellent. Top performances of the day? Midnight Lute and War Pass. Haven't seen Midnight Lute's Beyer but I'm guessing its in the 120 neighborhood. The Turf could've been a great field if some more top Euros came over; it did have two previous BC Turf winners and an Arc winner.

top performance: Midnight Lute
most tenacious: Ginger Punch
biggest disappointment: Dylan Thomas
worst decision: running GW on the main track, and in slop at that

Only 108. . . Seems off

[Metal Man]

Any other day of the year those horses would of sratched and never ran on a track like that. Had to be the worst day for the Breeders Cup races. In the future they will need a all weather track.:eek:

[Sightseek]

I think the racing was great. I'm biased, but regardless, I thought the racing was great. Jeez, how can you not be impressed with what Curlin has done this year. Most impressive performance of the day, and off the cuff, Midnight Lute second, Corinthian third; maybe I'm missing something.

The weather was lousy. It was what it was, Mother Nature -- what can you do. I think "Monmouth Park" as a facility was great. I think they did a super job, facility wise. The teller situation seemed very good, concession stands as well, and there didn't seem to be too many people in a facility that couldn't handle it. The ticket distribution and pricing strucuture is the abolsute worst I've ever seen it. In all the years of the Breeders Cup, it has now achieved a level of being pathetic. It must be changed. The Breeders Cup needs to be "a lot more" of a lot -- a lot more accessible to the masses, customer friendly and conducive, etc. Of course, this is not a host track issue however, it's a Breeders Cup issue.

I believe that the mindset of the Breeders Cup people/management is that they are more concerned about the business aspect, corporate sponsorship, revenues, etc. -- than they are about the show.

Eric

I agree, there were some 'wow' performances on the day, even the Distaff division, which everyone had been saying was very dull outside of RTR, gave the best horse to horse battle down the stretch.

Because of Mother Nature I can say I was definitely glad to be watching from home though. :)

[ELA]

I hate the #'s game, but I came up with about the same, so I think that # is somewhat on. I think Curlin's # will be substantially higher. I won't throw it out there but I think you are at 10% or so.

My "impressive" performances weren't based on #'s however.

Anyway, I can apprecaite watching from home. I like that too, often better than live. I'm just glad it was a great BC week.

Eric

[Storm Cadet]

I had a great day -- a great week for that matter. The BC has a way of getting you charged up. Sure, the weather was bad, but I don't/didn't even think about that, nor would I dwell on it. I think Monmouth did a fantasic job and they will probably be in the running again in the future. They may move the dates a bit, or change some of the logistics, make it part of a larger meet, etc. That could all depend on where NJ racing is going vis a vis the Meadowlands, Monmouth, VLT's, and so on.

I've always enjoyed Monmouth, the facililty, racing, etc. and having the BC there was great. And, I got to see a super performance by the soon to be named Horse Of The Year. Hope everyone had a great day.

Eric

I agree with all stated above...and I didn't go there live for the races. I thought it was a great day of racing.

[AeWingnut]

in comic book guy voice


"Worst Breeder's Cup ever"

[citycat]

Only been to four BC's myself but of course I love to watch when I am not able to get there. I kinda think that the BC should probably be held at CD every year.

[Cajungator26]

I hated this year's BC just about as much as I hated last year's event. I'm so glad I didn't go... no way I would have been able to sit there and see George Washington go down like that covered in mud. :(

It didn't help that I didn't have a single winner either.

[MaTH716]

I enjoyed it very much, how could you not? It is like the superbowl for horseracing fans. I had the chance to go and know I can not wait till it comes back to Belmont so I could go again.

[10 pnt move up]

1. was it good to wager on - no, the weather sealed that fate
2. was there exceptional performances that will standout over time - I dont think so, Curlin certainly ran huge but I doubt 15 years from now anyone remembers it for more then a classic win, EC ran super but not sure he beat much once dylan thomas did not run. midnight lute ran pretty good, I might remember that.


I think those two questions go hand in hand with the BC. This one fell way short on 1 and mostly on 2. In fact it can be argued this BC did more to hurt racing then helped.

[ninetoone]

I enjoyed it very much, how could you not? It is like the superbowl for horseracing fans. I had the chance to go and know I can not wait till it comes back to Belmont so I could go again.

I agree. It was a lot of fun to be able to be there in person. Yeah, the weather sucked & my selections were even worse, but it was still the Cup. In fact, the weather allowed you to get right up to the Paddock & the winner's circle this year. I even got to meet Steve & a couple other DT'ers...

[JJP]

Any other day of the year those horses would of sratched and never ran on a track like that. Had to be the worst day for the Breeders Cup races. In the future they will need a all weather track.:eek:

You Southern Californians are so spoiled by your weather; it was a sloppy track but I've seen horses race under far worse conditions than that. The trend toward some cancellations is a recent phenomenon.

[NoLuvForPletch]

You Southern Californians are so spoiled by your weather; it was a sloppy track but I've seen horses race under far worse conditions than that. The trend toward some cancellations is a recent phenomenon.

Where could you possibly have seen conditions that you consider "far worse" than that? If it wasn't the Breeders Cup there is a pretty good chance they would've cancelled racing altogether. To have standing water (puddles the size of small ponds)on the main track is one thing but on the turf course? I can't say I've ever seen anything like that in my 30 years of following the sport.

[docicu3]

bottom 3 for myself, the track and turf conditions were a mess........the turf being the worst, that mule bob dylan looked like a bad 35k claimer from aqeduct.


Just one notch below a C cup.......

[sumitas]

It was a very average BC. There were no great upsets which was disappointing. It showed the best of the sport, and the worst of the sport, unfortunately.

[Metal Man]

You Southern Californians are so spoiled by your weather; it was a sloppy track but I've seen horses race under far worse conditions than that. The trend toward some cancellations is a recent phenomenon.
We are a bit spoiled with good weather , but to prep for most of the year and have to run on a muddy/soupy track is terrible. A all weather track would of been the best of a bad situation for both horses and bettors.

[azerica]

I kept hoping Tom Durkin would show up and save the day.....

[ateamstupid]

Considering what a disaster it could have been (small track, terrible weather), it turned out to be very enjoyable. Certainly had much more fun last Saturday than I did freezing my extremities off in 35 degree weather at BEL in '05.

[azerica]

Even though she did not win, I thought Octave ran a heck of a race....

[Uncle Daddy]

The weather in NJ made me think of 2002 at Arlington and all the whining and complaining about the cold. I would move that day up based upon conditions and fields we just saw. I think it was better attended, the turf was superb and you got a few prices on the day ( Valponi!)

[ELA]

Moving BC day, cancelling and going the next day, etc. -- while desirable -- it is just extremely difficult and not very feasible.

Sure, if conditions were truly dangerous, there would be no questions.

Eric

[Bigsmc]

I preferred last Saturday's weather to last Sunday's weather, without question. I know that it rained early in the day -- I was there, and I drove to central New Jersey very early Saturday morning through a monsoon -- but after the rain ended, it was pleasant. I'd take light rain and 68 degrees to Belmont's 2005 weather every time, even though my seats were not under cover.

Sunday was bright, clear, and with the whipping wind, rather cold. It would have been parka weather last Sunday at Monmouth. I was there on Saturday in shorts.

LOL. A fine example of where you and I are from. You were in shorts and I had three layers on. I took it down to two layers when the sun came out.

[Metal Man]

The 10 cent superfecta hurt the larger payoffs in those pools.

[ArlJim78]

The 10 cent superfecta hurt the larger payoffs in those pools.
I see no evidence for that. The results were on the predictable side which is why there were no really large payouts.

[hockey2315]

The 10 cent superfecta hurt the larger payoffs in those pools.

This is a trendy opinion but I agree with Jim that there's no evidence for it. . .

[Metal Man]

OK your right and I'm wrong, but I saw alot of gezzers playing and cashing $2.40 tickets. I know they were not going to play $24 to catch the same winner.

[ArlJim78]

OK your right and I'm wrong, but I saw alot of gezzers playing and cashing $2.40 tickets. I know they were not going to play $24 to catch the same winner.
do you also think all the geezers playing $2 to win hurt the win payoffs?

The super pool for the classic was over $2.5 million and paid out over 2000 to 1. Anyone that had it for a dime and collected $214 should be thrilled.

[Metal Man]

do you also think all the geezers playing $2 to win hurt the win payoffs?

The super pool for the classic was over $2.5 million and paid out over 2000 to 1. Anyone that had it for a dime and collected $214 should be thrilled.
I all ready said you were right.

[Mortimer]

I all ready said you were right.

Well you all is right!!






But you must say it 4 times.



I think you have 3 to go.

[Mortimer]

Well?


We're waiting Mr. All Ready.