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Kasept
10-20-2007, 06:58 AM
Hope some caught on air selection of Bel Air Beauty in her annual stakes win at Keeneland yesterday in the Valley View.. Missed the Late P3 but the $18.00+ on the Frank Brothers-Bruce Lunsford miss was OK as she looked perfectly set up for a big try third off the break.

Hard to pass up the NYB Stakes card at Belmont today with weather looking to be better and big mutuels making a yearly visitation on these proceedings..


BELMONT PARK

TURF: SOFT.. Note changes..

1st: 14th Maid of the Mist-NYB, 2yo-F, 1m (DD)

Best Value: #1 Meriweather Jessica 2-1 2nd
Most Likely: #2 Expect the End 9-5 WON
Exotics Use: #4 Anita Rosia 5-1 6th

$1 Exacta (2-1) $8.00


2nd: MSW-NYB, 2yo, 7f (P4, P3)

Best Value: #10 Alexandros 8-1 4th
Most Likely: #2 Post Exchange 3-1 5th
Exotics Use: #8 Dixieland Star 5-1 3rd
Other: #11 Aforementioned 12-1 9th


3rd: 14th Sleepy Hollow-NYB, 2yo, 1m (P3)

Best Value: #1 Be Bullish 10-1 4th
Most Likely: #8 BIG TRUCK 1-1 3rd
Exotics Use: #4 Giant Moon 3-1 WON
Other: #7 Dazzling Derek 6-1 6th


4th: 29th Iroquois-NYB, F&M-3+, 7f (P3)

Best Value: #6 Karakorum Starlet 12-1 WON
Most Likely: #5 Light Tactic 5-2 7th
Exotics Use: #8 Ice Cool Kitty 7-2 3rd
Other: #7 Precise Lady 12-1 8th


5th: The Office Miss-NYB, 3yo-F, 1m-T (P6, P3, .10 Super)

Best Value: #6 My Kitty 15-1 4th
Most Likely: #10 Karakorum Elektra 8-1 7th
Exotics Use: #9 Jesse's Justice 3-1 9th
Super Add: #12 Cagey Girl 10-1 12th

NOTE: Soft going moves #1 Tishmeister into the realm of possibilities.. Add to Super at the least.. 5th


P4 Play:

Main: $3

2: 2
3: 8
4: 5-6-8
5: 1-6-9-10

1x1x3x4 = 12 x $3 = $36


Backup: $1

2: 3-6-8-10-11
3: 8
4: 5-6
5: 1-6-10

5x1x2x3 = $30


6th: 27th Ticonderoga-NYB, F&M-3+, 9f-IT (DD, GS, P3, .10 Super)

Best Value: #7 Latitude Forty 10-1 3rd
Most Likely: #6 Factual Contender 3-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #8 J'Ray 7-2 4th
Super: #3 Rewrite 9-2 WON

$1 Exacta (3-6) $12.80
$1 Trifecta (3-6-8) $86.50
$1 Superfecta (3-6-8-7) $294.50


7th: 30th Hudson-NYB, 3+, 6f (P4)

Best Value: #3 FEROCIOUS FIRES 8-1 WON-on DQ
Most Likely: #1 Stormin Normandy 2-1 2nd-DQ'd from 1st
Exotics Use: #8 Posted 3-1 8th
Other: #5 Gold and Roses 7-2 4th

$1 Exacta (3-1) $16.30


8th: 29th Mohawk-NYB, 3+, 9f-IT (P3)

Best Value: #7 Gimme Credit 8-1 3rd
Most Likely: #1 SCR
Exotics Use: #6 Bestowed 12-1 7th
Other: #3 Juror 12-1 9th


9th: 32nd Empire Classic-NYB, 3+, 9f (DD)

Best Value: #2 Who What Win 6-1 2nd
Most Likely: #6 Naughty New Yorker 2-1 4th
Exotics Use: #8 Indian Hawke 5-2 6th
Other: #4 French Transition 8-1 9th


10th: NYB-ALW/N1X, 3+, 8.5f-T (.10 Super)

Best Value: #6 Slow Signal 30-1 8th
Most Likely: #8 Tobruk 4-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #4 Raynick's Fan 7-2 WON
Super: #1 Really Rollicking 15-1 (added due to turf condition..) 11th

$1 Exacta (4-8) $16.80


<$50 P4 Play:

7: 1-3
8: 1-SCR-3-6-7
9: 2-6
10: 1-4-6-8

2x3x2x4 = $48


<$100 P6 Play:

5: 6-9-10
6: 6-7
7: 3
8: 1-SCR-7
9: 2-6
10: 1-4-6-8

3x2x1x1x2x4 = 48 x $2 = $96


Good luck!
Steve

golfer
10-20-2007, 07:02 AM
No Psymphony of Psalms in the 6th? She had a no-chance trip in her last when beaten by many in here (which should ensure a square price).

Kasept
10-20-2007, 07:20 AM
No Psymphony of Psalms in the 6th? She had a no-chance trip in her last when beaten by many in here in her last (which should ensure a square price).
Literally next on the list. Agree, a tough exclude.. Happy the 6th misses the P4's..

Holland Hacker
10-20-2007, 08:08 AM
4th: 29th Iroquois-NYB, F&M-3+, 7f (P3)

Best Value: #6 Karakorum Starlet 12-1
Most Likely: #5 Light Tactic 5-2
Exotics Use: #7 Ice Cool Kitty 7-2
Other: #8 Precise Lady 12-1

@$50 P4 Play:

2: 2-3-6-8-10-11
3: 8
4: 5-6-7
5: 6-9-10

6x1x3x3 = $54


While comparing my selections with yours I noticed that you transposed the numbers for Ice Cool Kitty and Precise Lady.

According to my Racing Form Ice Cool Kitty is # 8 and Precise Lady is # 7.

Just wanted to point that out as I don't know who you wanted to include in the Pick 4.

Hopefully you have a Great day as our selections are very close.

Do you really think Karakorum Starlet has a shot with these? That would be awesome as I would get my picture taken in the Winners Circle as I own a small %age.

GL to all playing today!

hoovesupsideyourhead
10-20-2007, 08:33 AM
coa parlay all day 10 bucks w/p/s...:eek: :cool:

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 08:41 AM
Lovin Alexandros in second...

dellinger63
10-20-2007, 08:51 AM
coa parlay all day 10 bucks w/p/s...:eek: :cool:

I'll take Ramon Dominguez against him.

Kasept
10-20-2007, 09:20 AM
While comparing my selections with yours I noticed that you transposed the numbers for Ice Cool Kitty and Precise Lady.

According to my Racing Form Ice Cool Kitty is # 8 and Precise Lady is # 7.

Just wanted to point that out as I don't know who you wanted to include in the Pick 4.

Hopefully you have a Great day as our selections are very close.

Do you really think Karakorum Starlet has a shot with these? That would be awesome as I would get my picture taken in the Winners Circle as I own a small %age.

GL to all playing today!
HH,

Good catch.. Thx!

Thought K-Starlet ran very credibly last pair and offers value here. Don't think she's as good a win candidate as Tactic or Kitty... But good luck there today!

gales0678
10-20-2007, 09:27 AM
Steve - Post Exchange has been very good in the am's since he was gelded

Kasept
10-20-2007, 09:32 AM
Steve - Post Exchange has been very good in the am's since he was gelded
He's going to be tough in there.

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 10:06 AM
Steve - Post Exchange has been very good in the am's since he was gelded

Form only shows one workout since layoff. Something not on there? Not listed as Gelding either.

Bigsmc
10-20-2007, 10:59 AM
Form only shows one workout since layoff. Something not on there? Not listed as Gelding either.

He's listed as one in the changes.

Kasept
10-20-2007, 11:04 AM
Track: Good
Turf: Soft (!) A rare admission...

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 11:04 AM
He's listed as one in the changes.

Thanks. Good to know...

Kasept
10-20-2007, 11:45 AM
I can't get passed # 5 Light Tactic. :)
;)

swedejxn
10-20-2007, 11:50 AM
Just throwing out 2 per race.... Will be keys to all my exotics

4,6
2,3
1,8
1,8
7,8
5,7
2,4
3,5
2,6
4,12

Good Luck

hoovesupsideyourhead
10-20-2007, 12:14 PM
2nd look out for the 9 coa and contessa ..form my be masked a bit the 7f move on at aq sept 9th ... huge no right now at 29-1 turf to dirt 2nd start ..

pointman
10-20-2007, 12:30 PM
Early pk4 with pmac and ltjmac, hoping for some prices here:

2- 2,3,8,9,10
3- 8
4- 4,5,6,7,8
5- 1,2,6,8,9,10

Good luck to everyone today! :)

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 12:32 PM
Single the Truck and do some fishing with the boys for early pick4...

R2 - 2,3,8,9,10
R3 - 8
R4 - 4,5,6,8
R5 - 1,2,6,8,9,10

Good Luck!

Nick - We cut precise Lady (7) in 4th...

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 01:02 PM
Well the early went so well, we will come back with a late...

Ticket #1
R7 - 1,3,7,8
R8 - 2,3,6,7
R9 - 2,6
R10 - 1,3,4,6,8,9,10

Ticket #2
R7 - 1,3
R8 - 2,3,6,7
R9 - 6
R10 - 1,4,8

Kasept
10-20-2007, 01:27 PM
Asmussen.. jeez. Want to throw up...

Schosberg on the other hand, makes you want to just stand up and applaud. Can do no wrong.. since July 25th.

Hickory Hill Hoff
10-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Back-wheeled "Big Truck" with the 1-2-4.....

may go outside and cut brush...in the rain!

Kasept
10-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Do you really think Karakorum Starlet has a shot with these? That would be awesome as I would get my picture taken in the Winners Circle as I own a small %age. GL to all playing today!
You know.. then again maybe she IS as good a win candidate as Kitty and Tactic!

Congrats to Hacker who clearly has a piece of Karakorum Startlet and also to Jeff Odinitz who works hard and gets a lot out of stock.

hoovesupsideyourhead
10-20-2007, 01:55 PM
You know.. then again maybe she IS as good a win candidate as Kitty and Tactic!

Congrats to Hacker who clearly has a piece of Karakorum Startlet and also to Jeff Odinitz who works hard and gets a lot out of stock.
nice call ..cagey girl ,cute con/ visual candy ext box?:eek:

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 01:55 PM
Nice call With Karakorum Starlet on Top Steve.

Congrats Hacker!

pointman
10-20-2007, 01:55 PM
Steve, nice call on Karakorum Starlet.

pointman
10-20-2007, 02:09 PM
Belmont 5th, 10 cent supers:

1,2,8,9/1,2,6,9/1,2,3,8,9,10,12/1,2,3,8,9,10,12

1,2/1,2/3,5,8,9,10,12/3,5,8,9,10,12

Good luck to all!

Ronnie
10-20-2007, 02:09 PM
I'll play the 9/1 exacta straight up with some savers 9/2 and 1,2/9. I think JJ is the best horse although she may not like it soft.

Ronnie
10-20-2007, 02:14 PM
I'll play the 9/1 exacta straight up with some savers 9/2 and 1,2/9. I think JJ is the best horse although she may not like it soft.

I don't even think the 9 ran. :eek:

Bigsmc
10-20-2007, 02:23 PM
You know.. then again maybe she IS as good a win candidate as Kitty and Tactic!

Congrats to Hacker who clearly has a piece of Karakorum Startlet and also to Jeff Odinitz who works hard and gets a lot out of stock.


Congrats to HH.

Sorry HHH.

Hickory Hill Hoff
10-20-2007, 02:26 PM
Congrats to HHH.


That's HH, not me....didn't even come close! :(

pointman
10-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Congrats, Hacker. Hope you had a big win ticket!

pointman
10-20-2007, 02:33 PM
Not going too well today, take another crack at a 10 cent super:

2,3,7/2,3,7/2,3,4,6,7/2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 03:29 PM
Whew...that helps the pick4.

Steve pegs another one on top...

pointman
10-20-2007, 03:34 PM
Nice call again, Steve. I am surprised that we got 5-1 on Ferocious Fires, I'll take it. :D

sumitas
10-20-2007, 03:41 PM
As an aside, kind of odd to see so many horses in the NY showcase card sired by out of state sires. the NY sires have been represented pretty good though today although being heavily outnumbered.

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 03:56 PM
Used the 7,9,10 in my pic 4 here and will be making a win bet on Spurred at a ridiculous 12-1 right now. This is a very nice horse and as long as he doesn't get hung out going into the turn should be okay.

Nice call on Spurred and using the #9...

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Thanks. With a more patient ride he might have won. Kills me that the three horses I used ran 1-2-3. Good opinion in the race, yet all I managed was a $1 exacta.

Oh well. Used the 4,6,7 in here. Going to play the 4 to win a little. Big jock switch and if he goes back to making one run like at Toga, he'll be tough.

Good luck bringing it home...

Kasept
10-20-2007, 04:04 PM
Great job Jay! Good luck the 2nd half... 4-6-7 is nice coverage... Who would you need in the 10th?

Kasept
10-20-2007, 04:07 PM
Nice call again, Steve. I am surprised that we got 5-1 on Ferocious Fires, I'll take it. :D
Thx.. Getting beat up on the multis but the isolated hits with him and Kara saving the day... Loved Ferocious last year and agree with Jay he wouldn't have been spotted here if not ready. 5-1 was square!

pmacdaddy
10-20-2007, 04:36 PM
Pick6 CO to everyone but #12.

Pick6 will pay to #12 - $63K

Pick4 will pay to the #12 - $82K

pointman
10-20-2007, 04:45 PM
Thx.. Getting beat up on the multis but the isolated hits with him and Kara saving the day... Loved Ferocious last year and agree with Jay he wouldn't have been spotted here if not ready. 5-1 was square!

Multis impossible today.

pointman
10-20-2007, 04:50 PM
Steve, I also like the 1 in the 10th at 21-1, seems to like the turf condition, addition of blinkers means he should be on the lead possibly by himself, can beat these with his best. Just as I am typing, he takes a hit to 16-1.

pointman
10-20-2007, 04:58 PM
Wow, that is the definition of quit.

Holland Hacker
10-20-2007, 08:20 PM
Congrats, Hacker. Hope you had a big win ticket!

No unfortunately I didn't think she would be able to beat Ice Cool Kitty and the #5 but I did use in the pick 3 starting the race before. I hit the pick 3 races 3 - 5 so I was happy, and I got to have my picture taken.

Still it was very exciting being there and rooting for her. I thought she was done at the 1/8th pole with the 3 moving to her and pushing her. She is just a great filly.

Hopefully I can hit a nice pick 3 at Mth next Saturday!

Holland Hacker
10-20-2007, 08:29 PM
HH,

Good catch.. Thx!

Thought K-Starlet ran very credibly last pair and offers value here. Don't think she's as good a win candidate as Tactic or Kitty... But good luck there today!

Steve

Unfortunately I agreed with you and didn't think she was "up to the task" so I didn't play her to win. I agree she has run well and loves Belmont. I'm excited that she actually showed some gameness and won today fighting back when challeneged in the stretch. Thanks to you (Including her on top) I included her in a pick three with Giant Moon & Cute Cognac which made the day. That Pick three paid as well as (actually better than) most pick 4s that I hit.

Looking forward to listening to the show this week and I'll try and stop by to see you on Friday some time.

Hickory Hill Hoff
10-20-2007, 09:53 PM
No unfortunately I didn't think she would be able to beat Ice Cool Kitty and the #5 but I did use in the pick 3 starting the race before. I hit the pick 3 races 3 - 5 so I was happy, and I got to have my picture taken. Still it was very exciting being there and rooting for her. I thought she was done at the 1/8th pole with the 3 moving to her and pushing her. She is just a great filly.

Hopefully I can hit a nice pick 3 at Mth next Saturday!


Gettin' your photo taken is better than any amount, especially if you own a piece :)