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Kasept
10-01-2007, 08:48 AM
Santa Anita carryover of $121,000 likely to bust up through $1MM Wednesday..

Let's have Contest/Symposium threads given the 48 lead time...


SANTA ANITA WEDNESDAY ENTRIES (3rd-8th)


3rd (2:00) 6 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Starter Allowance | Purse: $23,000

1 Harlans Fortune Pedroza M A 120 L
2 Scott's Poppy Baze T C 120 L
3 Tough Contender Jara F 120 L
4 County Tune Gryder A T 118 L
5 Check This Topper Rosario J 120 L
6 Shake and Roll Almeida G F 120 L
7 Kindacatchy Quinonez A 115 L
8 Bayngen Bartok Blanc B 118 L
9 Tyspikeshigh Court J K 120 L
10 D. Double You Smith M E 120 L
11 Roadside Rest Solis A 120 L
12 Closing Statement Delgadillo A 118 Blk-On L



4th (2:30) 6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Maiden Claiming ($62,500 - $55,000) | Purse: $26,000

1 Love Happens Espinoza V 120 $62,500 L
2 Tripped the Light Atkinson P 120 $62,500 Blk-On L
3 Outlaw Angel Smith M E 120 $62,500
4 Fast N Flirty Nakatani C S 120 $62,500 L
5 Thunder and Ice Valdivia J Jr 120 $62,500
6 Ellie's Buddha Jara F 117 $55,000 L
7 Let's Eat Out Court J K 120 $62,500
8 Princess Traci Baze T C 120 $62,500 L
9 Chica Una Solis A 120 $62,500 L
10 Mystic Geisha Flores D R 120 $62,500 L



5th (3:00) 6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Claiming ($12,500 - $10,500) | Purse: $14,000

1 C S Viviana Delgadillo A 120 $12,500 L
2 Risky Game Quinonez A 115 $12,500 L
3 Cheyenne Queen Migliore R 118 $10,500 L
4 Tootallnocall Stra K 120 $12,500 L
5 Lady Hikaru Jara F 120 $12,500 Blk-On L
6 Miss Melissa Gryder A T 120 $12,500 L
7 Yo Joan Pedroza M A 120 $12,500 L
8 Torikins Almeida G F 120 $12,500 L
9 Gone Californian Court J K 120 $12,500 L
10 She Looks Famous Baze T C 120 $12,500 L
11 Sharon Sage Scott J M 120 $12,500 L
12 Chestnut Chips Espinoza V 120 $12,500 L
13 Hotitude Rosario J 120 $12,500 L


A-Coupled: Risky Game and She Looks Famous


6th (3:30) 1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 2 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $45,000

1 Reel Prime Enriquez I D 120 L
2 Chanjo Rosario J 120 L
3 Lightening Gulch Nakatani C S 120
4 Stalemate Valdivia J Jr 120 L
5 Premier Issue Arias S 120 L
6 Sportsbookjunkee Gryder A T 120 L
7 Left Unsaid Espinoza V 120
8 Southwest Flores D R 120 L
9 Change Your Mask Court J K 120
10 Golden Gorilla Quinonez A 115 Blk-On L
AE Monomonac Playboy Garcia M S 120
AE Rhetorically Baze T C 120 L
AE El Legado Garcia M 120 L
AE Even Odds Jara F 120 Blk-On L



7th (4:00) 1 Mile (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($32,000) | Purse: $47,000

1 G. I. Betty Solis A 119 L
2 Beyond the Mark Quinonez A 112 L
3 Camelita Almeida G F 120 L
4 Short Sentence Garcia M 117
5 High Cholesterol Flores D R 117 L
6 Charisma Matters Migliore R 120 L
7 Silber Pedroza M A 120 $32,000 L
8 Rollerskates Blanc B 117 L



8th (4:30) 6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Maiden Claiming ($62,500 - $55,000) | Purse: $26,000

1 In Daddy's Honor Quinonez A 112 $55,000 L
2 Chicks Rule Espinoza V 120 $62,500 Blk-On L
3 Stitchit Potts C L 120 $62,500 L
4 Amybelle Pedroza M A 120 $62,500 L
5 Remember Seattle Garcia M 120 $62,500
6 Judged Flores D R 120 $62,500 L
7 Highland Torree Migliore R 120 $62,500 L
8 Our Storm Enriquez I D 117 $55,000 L
9 Sierra Rose Solis A 120 $62,500
10 Winky Blanc B 120 $62,500

SniperSB23
10-01-2007, 09:03 AM
$2,500 bankroll?

Kasept
10-01-2007, 09:17 AM
$2,500 bankroll?
Yeah..

TitanSooner
10-01-2007, 10:41 AM
look at the size of those fields.. that's awesome

Bigsmc
10-02-2007, 07:11 AM
No time last night to look at it, but I plan on getting after it tonight.

ArlJim78
10-02-2007, 09:29 AM
I already looked at it last night so I’ll start off using two tickets.
I might make some adjustments depending on if either the 12 or 13 draw in for the sixth.

3) 1 4 9 10 11
4) 6 10
5) 1A 3 6 7 8 12
6) 2 6 8
7) 1 2 5 8
8) 7
5 x 2 x 6 x 3 x 4 x 1 x $2 = $1,440

3) 1 4 9 10 11
4) 6 10
5) 1A 3 6 7 8
6) 2 6 8
7) 1
8) 1 2 6
5 x 2 x 5 x 3 x 1 x 3 x $2 = $900

total $2,340

editted due to scratch in first race, and to correct program numbers.

hoovesupsideyourhead
10-02-2007, 04:55 PM
race 3

1 harlens fortune no race of any close to this
10 d double you calder shipper/claim
11 road side test did it easy late
race 4

1 love happens blew both turns at fplx
6 ellies buda sar invader
3 outlaw angel hollendorfer 40 perc and ownes
8 princess tracey may steal it

race 5

4 totalnocall if jock gets out of gate
11 chesnut chips trouble in last
6 miss melissa drops in for the w

race 6

6 sportsbook j blinks off
7 leftunsaid frankle dynoformer
9 changeyour mask dajure training well
8 southwest cozzin/q american ..turf breeding great..one to beat

race 7


1 gi betty does it again
4 short sent garcia take over for blanc ..
2 beyond the mark 2 nice closing trips with ok jock up

race 8

5 remember s first timer with solid works
4 amybelle padroza gets big drop shot
1 in daddys honor speed n fade ...
9 sierra rose hendricks first time at 2 nos good..

2304.00 good luck

herkhorse
10-02-2007, 08:39 PM
4-8-11-9/1-6-5-7/3-4-9-7/2-3-6/1-3/1-5-7

good luck to all playing with real $

Rootdog1
10-02-2007, 09:24 PM
No time tomorrow, so posting tonight (program #'s used)

3) 5,8,10,11
4) 1,4,6,8
5) 1,3,4,7,8,11
6) 2,3,8,10
7) 1
8) 4,5,7
$2,304

3)11
4)4,6
5)1,8,11
6)1,2,3,8
7)5,8
8)5,7
$192

PeteMugg
10-02-2007, 10:14 PM
3) 2,4,10,11
4) 4,6,10
5) 1,2,3,5,7
6) 6,7,8
7) 1,2
8) 1,2,4

4x3x5x3x2x3x$2=$2160

Cannon Shell
10-02-2007, 10:23 PM
3) 2,3,4,5
4) 4,5,6
5) 2,3,4,6,7
6) 2,3,8
7) 1,2
8) 1,4,5


tcket 2
3) 3,4
4) 3,7
5) 4
6) 4,6,8
7) 1,2
8) 1,2,4,7

dylbert
10-02-2007, 11:18 PM
3) 2,8,10,11
4) 1,2,6,10
5) 1,6,7,8
6) 8,10
7) 1,5
8) 1,2,6,7

1024 x $2 = $2048

3) 2,10
4) 2,10
5) 1,6,7,8
6) 2,8
7) 1,5
8) 1,7

128 x $2 = $256

3) 2,10
4) 2,10
5) 1,3,6,7,8
6) 8
7) 2,8
8) 1,7

80 x $2 = $160


3) 1,4,5
4) 3,8,9
5) 7
6) 8
7) 1
8) 4,9

18 x $2 = $36

Hit consolation times 2 x $87.60... LOL

sumitas
10-03-2007, 12:01 AM
ahhhh, gimmee a quick pick for $2...:D

Bigsmc
10-03-2007, 09:25 AM
Looks chaotic enough for another carryover... good luck all

Yes it does. Very tough sequence. The mixture of horses coming from Fairplex, No. Cal, Del Mar and Hollywood makes for an interesting handicapping exercise.

Bigsmc
10-03-2007, 11:41 AM
Utilizing the BTW method:

AB/AB/AB/AB/AB/AB

C/A/A/A/A/A
A/C/A/A/A/A
A/A/C/A/A/A
A/A/A/C/A/A
A/A/A/A/C/A
A/A/A/A/A/C

1,10,11//3,6,8,10//6,7,12//2,6,7,8//1,5//1,5,7 = $1,728 = $5,655.80

2,4//6,10//7//6,7//1,5//1,7 = $64
11//1,4//7//6,7//1,5//1,7 = $32
11//6,10//3,4,8,11//6,7//1,5//1,7 = $128
11//6,10//7//4,5,9//1,5//1,7 = $48
11//6,10//7//6,7//2,3//1,7 = $32
11//6,10//7//6,7//1,5//2,3 = $32

Total = $2,064

GL all

philcski
10-03-2007, 06:42 PM
WHOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hit it for a $120 ticket!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Riot
10-03-2007, 06:43 PM
Bigs, well done! I hope you played some of that!

And congrats Phil, too!

mclem10011
10-03-2007, 06:46 PM
Job fellas, very nice capping!

Rootdog1
10-03-2007, 06:47 PM
No time tomorrow, so posting tonight (program #'s used)

3) 5,8,10,11
4) 1,4,6,8
5) 1,3,4,7,8,11
6) 2,3,8,10
7) 1
8) 4,5,7
$2,304

3)11
4)4,6
5)1,8,11
6)1,2,3,8
7)5,8
8)5,7
$192

I HIT IT HERE....(NOT ON MY REAL TICKET THOUGH!!)

Bigsmc
10-03-2007, 06:48 PM
No time tomorrow, so posting tonight (program #'s used)

3) 5,8,10,11
4) 1,4,6,8
5) 1,3,4,7,8,11
6) 2,3,8,10
7) 1
8) 4,5,7
$2,304

3)11
4)4,6
5)1,8,11
6)1,2,3,8
7)5,8
8)5,7
$192

Nice job Root.

Bigsmc
10-03-2007, 06:48 PM
WHOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hit it for a $120 ticket!!!!!!! :D :D :D


Great job Phil.

dylbert
10-03-2007, 06:52 PM
Very nice 'capping today... more than doubled your wager plus multiple consolations. Bravo!

dylbert
10-03-2007, 06:55 PM
Congrat, Phil on "real" ticket

Regrets, Root on "real" ticket & congrats on "virtual" ticket

You beat my virtual consolations... LMAO

Rootdog1
10-03-2007, 07:07 PM
you to Bigs!!

hoovesupsideyourhead
10-03-2007, 07:11 PM
good job guys

declansharbor
10-03-2007, 07:17 PM
Excellent work fellas!

sumitas
10-04-2007, 02:12 AM
Excellent work ? For what ? Throwing around $2,000 pik 6 tickets with endless combinations leads me to believe you all don't have a clue about who is going to win a race. IMO handicapping is knowing what you are doing and these endless multiple plays every race is very poor handicapping imo. Give me a break, why play a $2,000 pik 6 ticket for $5,000 payoff , you can get that for a 2-1 fav.

Kasept
10-04-2007, 04:13 AM
Excellent work ? For what ? Throwing around $2,000 pik 6 tickets with endless combinations leads me to believe you all don't have a clue about who is going to win a race. IMO handicapping is knowing what you are doing and these endless multiple plays every race is very poor handicapping imo. Give me a break, why play a $2,000 pik 6 ticket for $5,000 payoff , you can get that for a 2-1 fav.
The contest budget was established from the P6 Symposiums led by BTW on the huge carryovers earlier this year. It's an exersize to show that it most often takes 'real money' investments to win the big carryover pots. Read the P6 threads in the Hatton. Yesterday's payoff was 'modest' as there were no big prices in the skien, but just one 10-1 shot would have pushed it into above $10,000, and a second would likely have doubled or tripled that again. And it would have taken a lot more than $100-$400 plays to hit it.

Bigsmc
10-04-2007, 04:33 AM
The contest budget was established from the P6 Symposiums led by BTW on the huge carryovers earlier this year. It's an exersize to show that it most often takes 'real money' investments to win the big carryover pots. Read the P6 threads in the Hatton. Yesterday's payoff was 'modest' as there were no big prices in the skien, but just one 10-1 shot would have pushed it into above $10,000, and a second would likely have doubled or tripled that again. And it would have taken a lot more than $100-$400 plays to hit it.


He didn't even have to go to The Hatton Room, just read the first three posts of this thread before looking down his nose at the tickets and results.

Kasept
10-04-2007, 04:49 AM
He didn't even have to go to The Hatton Room, just read the first three posts of this thread before looking down his nose at the tickets and results.
And let me add congrats to you & Root on the accurates; Dyl & A/J on the consos and Phil on the cash score...

ArlJim78
10-04-2007, 07:20 AM
Excellent work ? For what ? Throwing around $2,000 pik 6 tickets with endless combinations leads me to believe you all don't have a clue about who is going to win a race. IMO handicapping is knowing what you are doing and these endless multiple plays every race is very poor handicapping imo. Give me a break, why play a $2,000 pik 6 ticket for $5,000 payoff , you can get that for a 2-1 fav.
spoken by the person who made a quick pic selection. talk about not having a clue.

philcski
10-04-2007, 07:47 AM
And let me add congrats to you & Root on the accurates; Dyl & A/J on the consos and Phil on the cash score...

Thanks Steve and all!!!

Excellent work ? For what ? Throwing around $2,000 pik 6 tickets with endless combinations leads me to believe you all don't have a clue about who is going to win a race. IMO handicapping is knowing what you are doing and these endless multiple plays every race is very poor handicapping imo. Give me a break, why play a $2,000 pik 6 ticket for $5,000 payoff , you can get that for a 2-1 fav.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

sumitas
10-04-2007, 11:26 PM
Thanks Steve and all!!!



You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Different approaches for different players I suppose. The fellow that won the 7 figure pick six a couple of months ago in Cali bought about 6 dollars in tickets if I remember correctly. So it can be done in a conservative manner.

sumitas
10-04-2007, 11:46 PM
well, I did single Shakespeare and Rosinka. and i highlighted Optimistic Steve in the handicapping section. i don't do much handicapping but when I do i try to find one or two runners per race. any more than that, i pass. but that's just my personal approach.

sumitas
10-04-2007, 11:52 PM
no. my rule of thumb is the more multiples you bet the more you lose. so limit your horses to one or 2 per race or pass, and at least you won't lose a ton.

docicu3
10-04-2007, 11:53 PM
Your ability to continually be ridiculous is actually impressive. Not since PG1985 have we seen such talent. I applaud you.


Is it possible they are one in the same......the logic, approach, and volume of innane comments cloaked in attention seeking behavior is all too familiar...

sumitas
10-04-2007, 11:56 PM
being a close to the vest handicapper is attention seeking ? i think you should limit your combinations.

Bigsmc
10-05-2007, 03:47 AM
Different approaches for different players I suppose. The fellow that won the 7 figure pick six a couple of months ago in Cali bought about 6 dollars in tickets if I remember correctly. So it can be done in a conservative manner.

Dude, read the thread. None of us spent $2,500 of our own money on the thing. It was a contest/exercise for the carryover. We have done it here before, check the archives. Don't just pop in and pop off.

Now, if you were given $2,500 to use in a contest, would you go narrow or use all of the money?

Keep reading the thread and you'll see that Phil hit the P6 with a $120 ticket. I would say that was a VERY nice profit.

Wrong place and wrong time to extoll the virtues of your go narrow approach. The proper way would have been to discuss your approach BEFORE the races were run and actually post a ticket. It is shooting fish in a barrel when you come onto a thread after the fact and criticize.

Coach Pants
10-05-2007, 08:28 AM
Excellent work ? For what ? Throwing around $2,000 pik 6 tickets with endless combinations leads me to believe you all don't have a clue about who is going to win a race. IMO handicapping is knowing what you are doing and these endless multiple plays every race is very poor handicapping imo. Give me a break, why play a $2,000 pik 6 ticket for $5,000 payoff , you can get that for a 2-1 fav.
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