Quarters v. Thoroughbreds

[DEES3]

So, I'm out in Utah, not exactly a hotbed of racing, but I recently discovered that Wyoming Downs (in Evanston, WY) is getting set to start live racing in about a month. What do you think the odds are of the DRF having PPs for these races?

Anyway, many of their races from 400-800 yards are open to both Quarters and Thorobreds (sp?). Any insight on how to handicap these? Do quarters have an inherent advantage at these short sprint distances?

I'm also not exactly a quarterhorse racing expert, so any other insights on that front would be much appreciated.

[pgardn]

So, I'm out in Utah, not exactly a hotbed of racing, but I recently discovered that Wyoming Downs (in Evanston, WY) is getting set to start live racing in about a month. What do you think the odds are of the DRF having PPs for these races?

Anyway, many of their races from 400-800 yards are open to both Quarters and Thorobreds (sp?). Any insight on how to handicap these? Do quarters have an inherent advantage at these short sprint distances?

I'm also not exactly a quarterhorse racing expert, so any other insights on that front would be much appreciated.

I personally completely stay away from quarter horses. They run them at the track I frequent right now. Bad start and its over.

The 800 yard distance is usually 870 at the track I frequent where QH take on thoroughbreds. And I think the track condition makes a difference. If the track is deep, I would go with the thoroughbreds. It also depends on how sharp the turn is. Anything less than 870 I would think its advantage QH.

[DEES3]

Thanks for the tips. You were right about the 870 yards. Here is their stakes schedule, hoping to make it out there for a good number of these days, they only run two days a week and have bands, chili cookoffs, etc. If anyone else on here is in UT or WY shoot me a PM and let's see if we can meet up.

Sat, Jun 30th
Bear River Handicap
For Quarter Horse & Thoroughbred
870 Yards $2,500 Added

Sat, Jun 30th
Inaugral Handicap
For Thoroughbred
5 Furlongs on Dirt $3,000 Added

Sun, Jul 1st
Wasatch Handicap
For Quarter Horse
300 Yards $2,500 Added

Sat, Jul 14th
Wyoming All Breeds Derby
For All Breeds
400 Yards $10,000 Added

Sat, Jul 14th
Wyoming All Breeds Futurity
For All Breeds
350 Yards $15,000 Added

Sun, Jul 15th
Narrows Handicap
For Quarter Horse
350 Yards $3,000 Added

Sat, Jul 21st
Silver Dollar Derby
For Quarter Horse
400 Yards TBA

Sat, Jul 21st
Silver Dollar Futurity
For Quarter Horse
350 Yards $17,500 Added

Sun, Jul 22nd
Evanston Speed Handicap
For Thoroughbred
4 1/2 Frulongs $2,500 Added

Sun, Jul 22nd
Wyoming All Breeds Maturity
For All Breeds
400 Yards $3,500 Added

Sat, Jul 28th
Blane Schvaneveldt/Cowboy Classic Futurity
For All Breeds
330 Yards $17,500 Added

Sun, Jul 29th
Gary Waite Memorial
For All Breeds
330 Yards $7,500 Added

Sun, Jul 29th
Wyoming All Breeds Distance Challenge
For All Breeds
870 Yards $3500 Added

Sat, Aug 4th
AQHA Fort Dodge W/SW Claiming Challenge
For All Breeds
350 Yards $12,500 Added

Sat, Aug 4th
Nebo Stallion Futurity
For All Breeds
350 Yards TBA

Sun, Aug 5th
Golden Spike Futurity
For All Breeds
350 Yards $3,500 Added

Sat, Aug 11th
89 & Under Stakes
For All Breeds
350 Yards $5,000 Added

Sat, Aug 11th
AQHA Red Cell W/SW Distance Challenge
For All Breeds
870 Yards $12,500 Added

Sun, Aug 12th
Diamond Classic Derby
For All Breeds
400 Yards TBA

Sun, Aug 12th
Diamond Classic Futurity
For All Breeds
350 Yards TBA

Sun, Aug 12th
Mayor's Cup
For Thoroughbred
6 Furlongs $3,000 Added

Sat, Aug 18th
West Valley Car Star Claiming Futurity
For All Breeds
330 Yards $7,500 Added

Sun, Aug 19th
Don Pedro Dash
For Quarter Horse
100 Yards $2,500 Added

Sun, Aug 19th
Honorary Mile
For Thoroughbred
1 Mile $4,000 Added

Sun, Aug 19th
Letitride 550 Championship
For All Breeds
550 Yards $3,500 Added

Sun, Aug 19th

Uinta County All Breeds Handicap
For All Breeds
870 Yards $3,500 Added

[SentToStud]

I'm farily sure you'll find DRF pp's available.

I've been to a few far off the beaten path tracks and pp's have been available.

You might try emailing or calling DRF or Equibase to find out more info ....

[bigjag0716]

Thanks for the tips. You were right about the 870 yards. Here is their stakes schedule, hoping to make it out there for a good number of these days, they only run two days a week and have bands, chili cookoffs, etc. If anyone else on here is in UT or WY shoot me a PM and let's see if we can meet up.

Sat, Jun 30th
Bear River Handicap
For Quarter Horse & Thoroughbred
870 Yards $2,500 Added

Sat, Jun 30th
Inaugral Handicap
For Thoroughbred
5 Furlongs on Dirt $3,000 Added

Sun, Jul 1st
Wasatch Handicap
For Quarter Horse
300 Yards $2,500 Added

Sat, Jul 14th
Wyoming All Breeds Derby
For All Breeds
400 Yards $10,000 Added

Sat, Jul 14th
Wyoming All Breeds Futurity
For All Breeds
350 Yards $15,000 Added

Sun, Jul 15th
Narrows Handicap
For Quarter Horse
350 Yards $3,000 Added

Sat, Jul 21st
Silver Dollar Derby
For Quarter Horse
400 Yards TBA

Sat, Jul 21st
Silver Dollar Futurity
For Quarter Horse
350 Yards $17,500 Added

Sun, Jul 22nd
Evanston Speed Handicap
For Thoroughbred
4 1/2 Frulongs $2,500 Added

Sun, Jul 22nd
Wyoming All Breeds Maturity
For All Breeds
400 Yards $3,500 Added

Sat, Jul 28th
Blane Schvaneveldt/Cowboy Classic Futurity
For All Breeds
330 Yards $17,500 Added

Sun, Jul 29th
Gary Waite Memorial
For All Breeds
330 Yards $7,500 Added

Sun, Jul 29th
Wyoming All Breeds Distance Challenge
For All Breeds
870 Yards $3500 Added

Sat, Aug 4th
AQHA Fort Dodge W/SW Claiming Challenge
For All Breeds
350 Yards $12,500 Added

Sat, Aug 4th
Nebo Stallion Futurity
For All Breeds
350 Yards TBA

Sun, Aug 5th
Golden Spike Futurity
For All Breeds
350 Yards $3,500 Added

Sat, Aug 11th
89 & Under Stakes
For All Breeds
350 Yards $5,000 Added

Sat, Aug 11th
AQHA Red Cell W/SW Distance Challenge
For All Breeds
870 Yards $12,500 Added

Sun, Aug 12th
Diamond Classic Derby
For All Breeds
400 Yards TBA

Sun, Aug 12th
Diamond Classic Futurity
For All Breeds
350 Yards TBA

Sun, Aug 12th
Mayor's Cup
For Thoroughbred
6 Furlongs $3,000 Added

Sat, Aug 18th
West Valley Car Star Claiming Futurity
For All Breeds
330 Yards $7,500 Added

Sun, Aug 19th
Don Pedro Dash
For Quarter Horse
100 Yards $2,500 Added

Sun, Aug 19th
Honorary Mile
For Thoroughbred
1 Mile $4,000 Added

Sun, Aug 19th
Letitride 550 Championship
For All Breeds
550 Yards $3,500 Added

Sun, Aug 19th

Uinta County All Breeds Handicap
For All Breeds
870 Yards $3,500 Added



Good luck! For the 870 races, if you play a quarter horse on top of any exotic bet, you MUST, put a tb for 2nd and 3rd. If they don't win in an 870 race, they pretty much always make it close at the end, the quarters usually get the jump on them. I normally mix it up in an 870 race, Overall, I kind of like the quarter horses a little bit more than the tb's. not sure why, though. I guess I like them getting the jump on the tb's.


Another thing, a quarter horse should be able to beat any tb in a straigt race that's 400 yards or less.

[bigjag0716]

Hope that helps a little bit, I really stink at giving any kind of advice or tips online.

[unassailable08]

Arabs vs Quarters.

[theiman]

Arabs vs Quarters.

Arabs and qtrs wouldnt race against each other. Arabs are way too slow. Perhaps you are thinking of Apaloosa's?

Qtrs vs T-Breds.

I live is So cal and have been to Los Al numerous times. I dont play the qtrs but have heard alot of angles. The one that made sense was that if they have qtrs and t-breds running at 870 distances only play the T-Bred if he is a closer. A t-bred who tries to run head up with a qtr early in a race will get shredded. Many 870 races have Q-horses who are regulars at 350-400 yds distances, thus that is why you dont want a T-Bred racing early with a Qtr in an 870 race.

[unassailable08]

little angle

[witchdoctor]

look at the AQHA website for some info

http://racing.aqha.com/racing/handicapping/index.aspx

http://racing.aqha.com/racing/handicapping/HandicappingGuide.aspx